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guillaumeb

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19. no I am not, but, speaking as a person of faith,
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:19 PM
Feb 2015

there is a difference between practicing/believing in a particular philosophy and insisting that every public occasion must include a reference to religion. My beliefs regarding religion/philosophy are my own. I hope that they influence my actions, but I do not have to let anyone know what my beliefs are. My actions should show what type of person I am.

I am a Quebecker by birth who lives in Illinois, an area that prior to 1760 was part of Quebec. (I joke with my family that I live in the warm part of Quebec.) In Quebec, as in France, there is a strong form of secularism that we call laiicite. Any intermixing of the state and religion is discouraged by custom and law in some instances. While I agree with laiicite in principle I feel that prohibiting people from wearing religious clothing goes beyond what is required of the concept. I feel that allowing people to pray or observe religious custom is reasonable, but where to draw the line on reasonable accommodation is where we arrive at the problem.

Public events should be open to all without being devoted to any religious aspect so as to not make non-believers uncomfortable.

As to open practice of religion , if you refer to practicing in a public place, let me pose a question:
If I believe in live animal sacrifice should I be allowed to sacrifice a live animal in a town meeting? Extreme case, possibly, but where does society draw the line?

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Perfect description. Thanks on point Feb 2015 #1
great job! guillaumeb Feb 2015 #2
Are you suggesting that religious people should keep it in the closet? cbayer Feb 2015 #9
no I am not, but, speaking as a person of faith, guillaumeb Feb 2015 #19
I agree. Clearly drawn lines need to be in place. cbayer Feb 2015 #20
LAIICITE guillaumeb Feb 2015 #22
Thanks so much for the information. cbayer Feb 2015 #23
What about aspects of my religion that dictate how I act and behave. Igel Feb 2015 #3
As long as you keep it to yourself, I have no problem. longship Feb 2015 #4
But the person you are responding to is describing situations when he cbayer Feb 2015 #7
I understand the point. longship Feb 2015 #10
Yes, respect is what it is about. cbayer Feb 2015 #11
Harm is the measure. longship Feb 2015 #12
Agree, harm is the measure, though it is not always that clear. cbayer Feb 2015 #13
Amen, my good friend. longship Feb 2015 #14
I think your points are really worth noting. cbayer Feb 2015 #8
But free speech confers the right to say many kinds of things to people, whether or not they like it struggle4progress Feb 2015 #5
I think that's a good start, but it gets more complicated at the edges, cbayer Feb 2015 #6
There are some public displays of religion on public property that I view as benign. pinto Feb 2015 #16
They recently had the blessing of the fleet here, and it was wonderful. cbayer Feb 2015 #17
I tend toward benign inclusion, if that makes sense. And oppose any imposition. A line of sorts. pinto Feb 2015 #18
I like the concept of benign inclusion. cbayer Feb 2015 #21
+1. Agree, though your third point is somewhat vague, to me. I assume you mean teaching creationism, pinto Feb 2015 #15
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