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hrmjustin

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Tue Apr 11, 2017, 10:48 PM

Apr 2017

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Can a religious person be considered progressive if they oppose lgbt and reproductive rights? [View all] beam me up scottie Apr 2017 OP

Hell.To.The.Fucking.No! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #1

Simple is a good definition. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #2

It's a simple question specifically regarding women's and lgbt rights. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #3

I need more information. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #4

I can't possibly make it any simpler. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #5

People don't usually respond to obvious straw men Lordquinton Apr 2017 #7

If you can't fully oppose laws designed to impose anyone's religious views, that's not progressive. bettyellen Apr 2017 #9

Precisely. This is a deal breaker for me. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #10

I think that there are several Curmudgeoness Apr 2017 #20

I believe that I specified in another thread that I was talking about guillaumeb Apr 2017 #21

But who gives a crap Curmudgeoness Apr 2017 #22

Everything is either undefined, or based on one single issue. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #30

I love how the rights of historically opressed people Lordquinton Apr 2017 #40

Is that how you define progressive? What about military intervention to prevent genocide? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #46

I believe no one cares. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #23

Were you going to vote, or were you just hanging around in this thread for no particular reason? AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #26

Just watching the evasion, and outright reluctance to name guillaumeb Apr 2017 #31

Well, you've offered plenty of red herrings. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #34

And who is Dr. Susan Blackmore, and what qualifies her for the label? guillaumeb Apr 2017 #35

It is how I identify her after many hours of lectures, and several books, plus public speaking AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #44

In your definition of Progressive EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2017 #15

No. But I do not dismiss all that is progressive in judging. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #17

Barney Frank and Pete Stark edhopper Apr 2017 #28

Pete Stark? With his well-known respect for women? guillaumeb Apr 2017 #32

Still better than the Pope. Lordquinton Apr 2017 #41

A matter of opinion. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #49

Woah, you just took it to the next level Lordquinton Apr 2017 #52

Even with assistance? guillaumeb Apr 2017 #53

The Orthodox Christian Putin? Lordquinton Apr 2017 #54

Progressive comrades of faith!!! trotsky Apr 2017 #60

I'm unclear about your response EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2017 #81

First, define what a progressive is, and is not. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #87

Hitchens wasn't a progressive. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #24

They are labelled Religious Prerogative Progressives delisen Apr 2017 #6

I googled that term and didn't find a match. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #8

Sorry I was being flippant. Active opposition to the rights of others is not progressive, delisen Apr 2017 #11

Ah, gotcha. I think that's where the difference lies. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #12

I am male, and abortion is not a choice I could make. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #18

I can't tell if that was a dog whistle or not. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #68

All of that would be covered by my pro-choice stance. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #75

Still not clear. trotsky Apr 2017 #80

The subject of another post. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #86

Now it's clear. trotsky Apr 2017 #93

They could be a Democrat but not a Progressive IMO. nt WePurrsevere Apr 2017 #13

Agreed. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #14

When one treats a certain group as less than whole citizens Dawson Leery Apr 2017 #16

Meaning that none of the Founders of this country were progressive in a modern sense. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #19

That depends edhopper Apr 2017 #29

According to Antonin Scalia............... guillaumeb Apr 2017 #33

Why is you're go to an atheist conservative theist? Lordquinton Apr 2017 #42

And you believe Scalia? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #45

nice side stepping edhopper Apr 2017 #50

Scalia did the country a great service when he allowed a seat to open up. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #51

The Repukes edhopper Apr 2017 #67

For added hilarity, let's repeat this poll in GD. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #25

I guess. If they don't advocate for government involvement in lgbt and reproductive rights? Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #27

As I said up-thread I'm referring to those who actively oppose lgbt and reproductive rights. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #36

No, and why would the question even need to be asked? Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #37

Because some people do call them progressives. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #39

I mean, the pope is progressive by comparison to the 17th century time bubble that the Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #61

Wait, what? You just said opposition to lgbt and reproductive rights isn't progressive. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #63

Yeah in a perfect world I'd dissolve all religions entirely because they require adherence to Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #66

Are you serious? "the Catholic church has no power in America"? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #69

"the Catholic church has no power in America" Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #71

Something else to ask... NeoGreen Apr 2017 #38

That's a very good question. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #47

NO Doreen Apr 2017 #43

That's my opinion as well. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #48

Nope! Liberalism and egalitarianism go hand and hand. LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #55

Well said! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #56

No...if you condone anti-LGBT or anti-choice legislation, you are not progressive. LOL Lib Apr 2017 #57

Agreed. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #59

Apparently a Few People Like This *Are* Calling Themselves Progressive On the Road Apr 2017 #58

"drive off all the religious people" trotsky Apr 2017 #62

Asking a simple question is "driving off all the religious people"? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #64

You and I have been here long enough to have seen that old threat thrown out many times. trotsky Apr 2017 #65

Yep. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #70

"Back of the bus with you, atheist!" trotsky Apr 2017 #72

It's nice here in the back of the bus. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #73

You bet. trotsky Apr 2017 #74

Aw. Iggo Apr 2017 #85

You can't deny civil rights and basic health care to over half the population Warpy Apr 2017 #76

Exactly. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #78

You can call yourself the easter bunny for all I care, but vlyons Apr 2017 #77

That's where the difference is. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #79

Relative to the rest of their particular religious community, maybe. Htom Sirveaux Apr 2017 #82

A reasonable answer. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #83

Yeah, I would agree with that. Htom Sirveaux Apr 2017 #84

No I would not define them as progressive. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #88

I feel the same way. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #89

BTW my mom had open heart surgery yesterday. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #90

I hope she continues to recover and is home soon. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #91

Thanks. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #92