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Reply to guillaumeb (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2018, 08:39 AM

Sep 2018

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Why do some people engage in "whataboutism" in religion? [View all] guillaumeb Sep 2018 OP

My view of your posts- digonswine Sep 2018 #1

Thank you for your insights. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #3

Read the reports, large numbers of priests were likely involved or had knowledge marylandblue Sep 2018 #8

Out of over 400,000 priests, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #18

But ALL of them were part of the... NeoGreen Sep 2018 #19

Illogical. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #20

Since when does logic... NeoGreen Sep 2018 #21

You made an assertion. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #22

I think you responded... NeoGreen Sep 2018 #23

#19 was an example of fallacious reasoning, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #24

All that has to be proven is... NeoGreen Sep 2018 #25

"All that has to be proven..." guillaumeb Sep 2018 #27

Correct,... NeoGreen Sep 2018 #28

What difference does it make marylandblue Sep 2018 #36

Agreed, it is a matter for prosecutors to decide. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #39

I left off the sarcasm emoji marylandblue Sep 2018 #40

I am sure he did not intend to make a fallacious argument marylandblue Sep 2018 #52

But, as you pointed out in a repsonse to me, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #62

I didn't claim you had a "hidden agenda" marylandblue Sep 2018 #64

And my intentions are good also. Therefore I am not wrong. eom guillaumeb Sep 2018 #66

That's why fallacies can't be based on intent marylandblue Sep 2018 #76

Please state what standard and method of proof you propose marylandblue Sep 2018 #30

I am proposing nothing. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #32

No it is for all of us to decide as citizens concerned about the problem marylandblue Sep 2018 #35

We can pressure law makers, so in that sense we have influence, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #38

We make the decision as citizens and people concerned about religion marylandblue Sep 2018 #41

For the record- digonswine Sep 2018 #9

yet you specifically said the military actively covers up sex assault cases qazplm135 Sep 2018 #15

You are using a variant version of tu quoque marylandblue Sep 2018 #2

I can only respond: guillaumeb Sep 2018 #4

The bit about intent is not part of the definition marylandblue Sep 2018 #5

C'mon, mary. Everyone knows intention is what makes an argument fallacious. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #16

The only obvious reason to employ the fallacy is to excuse the conduct. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #17

No, that it is not correct, fallacies are used for a variety of purposes marylandblue Sep 2018 #31

We disagree. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #33

My communications teacher disagrees with your debate teacher marylandblue Sep 2018 #34

You wrote: guillaumeb Sep 2018 #37

You are saying what I don't mean, so no, we don't agree marylandblue Sep 2018 #42

Well, you did write it. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #43

No, you misintepreted it. marylandblue Sep 2018 #44

The point of engaging in whataboutism is to divert. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #45

Nonetheless, you have in fact diverted the discussion marylandblue Sep 2018 #46

We disagree. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #47

Sorry, I almost never accuse people of bad faith, but marylandblue Sep 2018 #49

By the way, you have accused others of bad faith many times marylandblue Sep 2018 #53

Diversion is exactly the form your apologia takes Major Nikon Sep 2018 #54

I'm no brainiac, but after reading all replies, this one sounds sound. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #56

It depends on what the person is trying to distract from marylandblue Sep 2018 #57

It's also designed to dilute the seriousness of the problem. MineralMan Sep 2018 #58

Yes, that is the essence of whataboutism marylandblue Sep 2018 #59

One of my general rules is not to engage with anyone MineralMan Sep 2018 #60

But it must be rejected because guillaumeb Sep 2018 #63

Since everybody on this board denies they have that intent marylandblue Sep 2018 #65

Sorry, your statement was pre-emptively rejected. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #67

It wasn't intended as humor, so it can't be funny marylandblue Sep 2018 #69

It can be. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #71

No only intent matters, just like for fallacies. marylandblue Sep 2018 #75

Whooo 🦉 are they that lie in wait to pounce. 🤔 sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #70

"Lie, lay, lain." sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #72

So we need another word? guillaumeb Sep 2018 #73

Yes, I feel that's more definitive. Non-believers/theists have their practices that could be sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #74

Personally, I am upset at how pedophilia in the Church is being treated marylandblue Sep 2018 #77

Here we go. I too am distressed regarding a disease in this branch of the Christian faith. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #79

Well I can agree with that, i do think clergy should be held to higher standard marylandblue Sep 2018 #82

Who is engaging in it? Lordquinton Sep 2018 #6

The OP engages in it in their other thread: Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #26

I want the OP to say it Lordquinton Sep 2018 #29

You are incorrect, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #48

Just as you are. marylandblue Sep 2018 #50

You are free to waffle as you wish Major Nikon Sep 2018 #55

Keep digging, guillaumeb. MineralMan Sep 2018 #7

... Major Nikon Sep 2018 #10

Spectacular! MineralMan Sep 2018 #11

TL;DR Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #12

I don't know, why do you? trotsky Sep 2018 #13

One of the best yet Major Nikon Sep 2018 #14

Our natural inclination to defend religious minoties RandySF Sep 2018 #51

Agreed. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #61

Who in the galloping fuck is "surprised"? Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #68

We should be surprised if religious institutions act worse than prison inmates marylandblue Sep 2018 #78

Whoa, my lovely lashes with a wet noodle 'sparring' opponent. 🤕 sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #80

Yes there is such a case marylandblue Sep 2018 #81