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qazplm135

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20. dont remotely agree
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:42 PM
Oct 2018

Imagine an alien creature that could bend reality to its will. Could cause half the planet to instantly disappear. Shrink the Moon down to the size of a marble. Things that simply cannot happen due to our current understanding of science.

At some point, it becomes supernatural to us. Even if we try to explain it using science.

Your point is, well, I will never ever ever believe in gods or the supernatural so there's literally nothing an entity could do to convince me they were a god, even if they did everything a god might be able to do.

Which is fine enough for you, but if it goes so far beyond our current understanding and knowledge that it becomes "magic", well, that's a tougher position to rigidly stick to.

I personally suspect you cannot really break fundamental laws of physics. You can go around them maybe. Maybe you can figure out a wormhole or Alcubierre Drive to go faster than the speed of light. But if you have mass, you ain't going past C, don't care how smart you are.

But I don't know. That's the whole point of being agnostic. Certainty in the face of so many unknowns and unknowable isn't logical.

Interesting question! Maybe the number is infinite. Croney Oct 2018 #1
Yes edhopper Oct 2018 #6
Are you suggesting that maybe grumpyduck Oct 2018 #2
I am not talking about any particular gods edhopper Oct 2018 #7
It depends on what your definition of a "deity" is...nt ADX Oct 2018 #3
A supernatural entity edhopper Oct 2018 #8
They are innumerable... ADX Oct 2018 #18
Christopher Hitchens said it best... AZ8theist Oct 2018 #4
Love it! edhopper Oct 2018 #9
Now you've done it... NeoGreen Oct 2018 #5
Why can't they all be edhopper Oct 2018 #10
Ahh, truth you are getting closer to! hueymahl Oct 2018 #12
Thanks Yoda edhopper Oct 2018 #14
as someone else said, depends on your definition qazplm135 Oct 2018 #11
"You shall have no other Gods before me" edhopper Oct 2018 #13
as Arthur C Clarke said qazplm135 Oct 2018 #15
Clarke's quote edhopper Oct 2018 #19
dont remotely agree qazplm135 Oct 2018 #20
But I have read science fiction novels edhopper Oct 2018 #22
I don't think we would perceive it that way at all qazplm135 Oct 2018 #29
Clarke's quote edhopper Oct 2018 #33
Clarke's point qazplm135 Oct 2018 #39
I don't agree with Clarke edhopper Oct 2018 #40
It's not about logic zipplewrath Oct 2018 #16
Well thought out post edhopper Oct 2018 #17
obviously that commandment qazplm135 Oct 2018 #21
Then why not say edhopper Oct 2018 #23
Because, at the time and in that region, there were loads of gods. MineralMan Oct 2018 #24
But God is suppose to know these things edhopper Oct 2018 #25
See, there are no gods, actually, so it doesn't matter. MineralMan Oct 2018 #37
Yes edhopper Oct 2018 #38
well first qazplm135 Oct 2018 #27
True edhopper Oct 2018 #34
Maybe there is a God for each galaxy. Alwaysna Oct 2018 #26
It is as simple as you having one Father and one Mother troyanos Oct 2018 #28
Where's mom? Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #30
Who is the Mother? uppityperson Oct 2018 #31
Thanks for the definitive answer lordbateman Oct 2018 #32
Can I ask you a question edhopper Oct 2018 #35
Good question troyanos Oct 2018 #41
Do this was after you joined DU? edhopper Oct 2018 #42
Thanks! troyanos Oct 2018 #43
Simplicity almost certainly has much to do with it Major Nikon Oct 2018 #55
Somehow I'm sure you thought that made sense. Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #57
raised Catholic and they had one GOD but wither personalities (??) rurallib Oct 2018 #36
In an eternal and infinite universe, any God or Gods that one can fathom gtar100 Oct 2018 #44
I am open to the idea that God is an infinite number of beings each with a single iota of power ck4829 Oct 2018 #45
Neat. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #49
You may choose for or against the view, that you have a transcendental obligation struggle4progress Oct 2018 #46
could you define edhopper Oct 2018 #47
I mean an obligation that one should try to honor with extraordinary seriousness struggle4progress Oct 2018 #48
Thanks edhopper Oct 2018 #50
Kierkegaard is regarded as an early existentialist struggle4progress Oct 2018 #51
You may choose one item from column A Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #58
Here is an article behind a paywall I would like to read exboyfil Oct 2018 #52
I have said edhopper Oct 2018 #53
Mitt Romney believes he will become a God after his physical death. keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #54
And 47% of the people on that planet.. Permanut Oct 2018 #56
One iota less goofy than Scientology. Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #59
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