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DetlefK

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84. They talk about the same topic, but don't even share the same language.

Mon Oct 22, 2018, 03:24 AM

Oct 2018

Here's science talking about how space-time came to be.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960077915004221

Science is based on cartesian, mechanistic philosophy.
Religion is based on animistic philosophy.
They. Can. Not. Mix.

Example:
"You throw an object against the wall."
Use religion to figure out what happens next.

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Did the Big Bang create God or did God create the Big Bang? [View all] Soph0571 Oct 2018 OP

It's simple PJMcK Oct 2018 #1

Depends on who or what God is. There is no reason to insist that there is no... TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #2

You have this backwards edhopper Oct 2018 #11

I've never heard of anyone Mariana Oct 2018 #12

Well you aren't listening to any astrophysicists. LakeArenal Oct 2018 #13

The word "superfluous" does not mean impossible. Mariana Oct 2018 #17

No intelligence behind the universe. Okay, how do you define "intelligence"? gtar100 Oct 2018 #30

You see a whole lot of intelligence behind the universe. Mariana Oct 2018 #38

Note the word "insist". All of this is speculation so there is no reason to insist on anything... TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #20

I see the distinction you are trying to make now edhopper Oct 2018 #24

I am not trying to make anything-- there is no absolute proof of no unicorns either... TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #28

I meant the distinction of saying there is no intteligent creator edhopper Oct 2018 #32

OK. Sometimes things get lost around here. TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #34

very true edhopper Oct 2018 #39

Are there possibilities that involve intelligence creating the universe? qazplm135 Oct 2018 #43

but Occam's Razor edhopper Oct 2018 #45

I don't know that we'd be adding an extra layer qazplm135 Oct 2018 #47

None of those options edhopper Oct 2018 #49

I think people forget qazplm135 Oct 2018 #52

None of them explain the origin, they just add a speculative Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #54

No depending on the theory qazplm135 Oct 2018 #55

Neither... NeoGreen Oct 2018 #3

Beyond finding out... pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #4

People are comprehending the universe everyday. LakeArenal Oct 2018 #14

We still can't square the circle !. pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #27

Gosh...squaring the circle.... uriel1972 Oct 2018 #31

Perpetual motion machines! pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #36

The perfect fit is an illusion and a temporary one... uriel1972 Oct 2018 #37

that is not even remotely true edhopper Oct 2018 #40

The mystery...it's vaster then the universe pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #46

I don't agree with your edhopper Oct 2018 #50

Would you care to define your God... uriel1972 Oct 2018 #58

You discovered the information about the eclipse? MineralMan Oct 2018 #41

The moon is not exactly the same size as the sun. Mariana Oct 2018 #44

Your head is very small and I can crush it between my fingers. Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #72

Precisely. nt. Mariana Oct 2018 #73

can't tell if being serious qazplm135 Oct 2018 #48

Anything we don't know right now is surely magic, then. FiveGoodMen Oct 2018 #79

He did? Would you provide a reference, please? Thanks in advance. nt. Mariana Oct 2018 #18

Romans 11:33 KJV pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #25

Thank you. Mariana Oct 2018 #29

The Big Bang Is In The Last Season..... global1 Oct 2018 #5

Best answer. Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #23

He'll need his sister with him FiveGoodMen Oct 2018 #80

The question is perhaps the biggest philosophical rubbish I have ever heard. DetlefK Oct 2018 #6

Well said. LakeArenal Oct 2018 #15

Science doesn't go back that far zipplewrath Oct 2018 #77

This is not about the Big Bang. It is about science and religion as concepts. DetlefK Oct 2018 #82

They occasionally intersect zipplewrath Oct 2018 #83

They talk about the same topic, but don't even share the same language. DetlefK Oct 2018 #84

But they do conflict zipplewrath Oct 2018 #85

"Genesis says" 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2018 #7

Looks like that God is about to be hoist by his own petard. MineralMan Oct 2018 #8

I'd love to have been there with a camera.. Permanut Oct 2018 #9

If history repeats itself, I am so getting a dinosaur. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #10

Oh, what fun! What kind will you get? nt Mariana Oct 2018 #19

One of the cute ones. Like in Jurassic Park. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #22

If it was me, I'd probably get a vegetarian one. TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #35

Chicken/Egg elleng Oct 2018 #16

No. woofless Oct 2018 #21

No Mind No Buddha WhiteTara Oct 2018 #26

It's a complex question keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #33

LOL! MineralMan Oct 2018 #42

The big bang created the environment ... TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #51

Uh "Creation"? uriel1972 Oct 2018 #53

Creation, evolution, mutation, whatev. TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #56

It's not about pedantry... uriel1972 Oct 2018 #57

How about this...God is the Big Bang. gtar100 Oct 2018 #59

And what? edhopper Oct 2018 #60

See how easy it is? MineralMan Oct 2018 #61

Easy? edhopper Oct 2018 #62

I don't know. I came up with the Cherry Bomb creation in just minutes. MineralMan Oct 2018 #63

But the problem with your myth is edhopper Oct 2018 #65

That's the least of the problems. MineralMan Oct 2018 #67

But this myth starts with six singularities edhopper Oct 2018 #68

That's just their opinion, you know. MineralMan Oct 2018 #69

The mythology that is edhopper Oct 2018 #70

Too cool! MineralMan Oct 2018 #71

I don't know qazplm135 Oct 2018 #75

Didn't say there weren't contradictions edhopper Oct 2018 #76

Man qazplm135 Oct 2018 #78

I thi9nk we are all edhopper Oct 2018 #81

It's not made up, man. It's the real deal. gtar100 Oct 2018 #64

Answers coming edhopper Oct 2018 #66

Soph asks good, serious questions Bretton Garcia Oct 2018 #74