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41. I'm pretty sure misogyny is not responsible for the

Thu Nov 29, 2018, 12:39 PM

Nov 2018

five percentage point change between Obama 12 and Clinton 16.

that's a pretty small change relatively speaking.

Most? There was a seven percentage point gap between Trump and Clinton among Catholics. Hispanic Catholics voted for her at a 71 percent clip. Higher than Obama in 12.

There are racial and other components here as well. It isn't simply "misogyny." It's a host of things.

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Why Progressive Religious Populism Won't Work in the United States [View all] MineralMan Nov 2018 OP

Can still try ck4829 Nov 2018 #1

How derivative. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #2

Not derivative. A direct response to your thread. MineralMan Nov 2018 #3

The substance is lacking. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #4

Balderdash and codswallop. MineralMan Nov 2018 #5

Exactly. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #6

Codswallop, ok shit, now I have to look that one up Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #10

I must admit to being unfamiliar with the 2 words. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #20

Balderdash is an oldie but a goodie but that other one...LOL Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #22

That sounds like a plan. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #23

Now that's a worthwhile goal. Lipinski is, perhaps, my least favorite DEM House member. MineralMan Nov 2018 #24

I worked for Newman's campaign. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #32

It didn't work. MineralMan Nov 2018 #34

As long as the person you get nominated doesnt have a poorer chance of beating the con. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #25

Lipinski lost to Newman in the suburbs, and won by name recognition in the city. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #33

Oh may, words saidsimplesimon Nov 2018 #52

Fortunately, we have Google now. MineralMan Nov 2018 #55

LOL! And yet you never replied in your own thread MineralMan Nov 2018 #7

marylandblue did an excellent job of making my case. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #8

But you did not. MineralMan Nov 2018 #9

The author made my case. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #15

So, am I to take it that articles you excerpt in posts MineralMan Nov 2018 #16

Never assume. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #17

So, I've been right all along, then? MineralMan Nov 2018 #18

One of the constants of your posts is in evidence. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #19

Well, I'm glad we cleared that up, MineralMan Nov 2018 #21

Horseshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #40

From YOUR own history: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #45

Great job of not actually reading what you replied to Major Nikon Nov 2018 #46

Actual history. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #47

Actual horseshit as usual Major Nikon Nov 2018 #48

Yes, yes. Mariana Nov 2018 #54

And the abolitionists were theists. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #60

Yes, yes, you already said that. Mariana Nov 2018 #61

Theists are humans. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #62

No shit Sherlock. Mariana Nov 2018 #63

People will do what they wish to do. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #64

"But progressive theists were involve in every progressive movement in the US," MineralMan Nov 2018 #65

Today, we know who it is Mariana Nov 2018 #68

That is most certainly true, to quote Martin Luther. MineralMan Nov 2018 #70

The point is progressive religious populism. Not progresive atheists. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #69

But you seemed to think the theism Mariana Nov 2018 #66

Right... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #67

Not sure what you mean by "won't work." wryter2000 Nov 2018 #11

I mean "won't work" as in "won't be effective in winning." MineralMan Nov 2018 #12

Well, we're pretty much ignored wryter2000 Nov 2018 #13

I attended services at an Episcopal church for a while, MineralMan Nov 2018 #14

Majority of voters are Christian qazplm135 Nov 2018 #26

Yes, exactly. Which is what Trump did. MineralMan Nov 2018 #27

And progressive Christians turned out for Hillary qazplm135 Nov 2018 #31

Still, the majority of Christian voters cast their ballots for Trump. Mariana Nov 2018 #35

really? qazplm135 Nov 2018 #36

Yes, really. Mariana Nov 2018 #37

so Obama won Catholics twice qazplm135 Nov 2018 #38

The Roman Catholic Church is extremely misogynist. Mariana Nov 2018 #39

I'm pretty sure misogyny is not responsible for the qazplm135 Nov 2018 #41

Yes, most. Mariana Nov 2018 #43

so if it were 51-49 qazplm135 Nov 2018 #44

No, I don't define it as "most". Mariana Nov 2018 #50

You're being disingenuous qazplm135 Nov 2018 #57

The only reason the RCC numbers are different is because of Hispanics Major Nikon Nov 2018 #49

And they are quite enough to outnumber the rest. Mariana Nov 2018 #51

Even those aren't too far behind Major Nikon Nov 2018 #53

I think you are right. Mariana Nov 2018 #56

Not just theists, but they seem to be the worst Major Nikon Nov 2018 #59

Your statistical analysis is quite lacking Major Nikon Nov 2018 #42

The Catholic Church is not its hierarchy. Those in the pews Hassler Nov 2018 #28

And yet, there they are, sitting in the pews and filling the plates. Mariana Nov 2018 #29

Some of them are. Some of them on some issues. MineralMan Nov 2018 #30

Actually the RCC is in fact it's hierarchy. Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #58