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trotsky

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23. "totalitarians are not limited to theists"

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 08:33 AM

Jan 2019

NO ONE has ever said otherwise, gil.

Why do you INSIST on presenting and knocking down straw men? Why can't you just discuss views that have actually been presented instead?

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China Sends 1.1 Million Party Members to Share Uighurs' Homes [View all] guillaumeb Jan 2019 OP

Can you imagine having to host a trumpist in your home? (shiver) Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #1

No. Not once dessert is over. dameatball Jan 2019 #2

Imagine if it were a family member. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #3

Family is family, you deal with it, Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #13

So because bad behavior is possible without religion... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #4

Missed. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #6

Bullshit. You made this about religion and posted it in the religion group Major Nikon Jan 2019 #8

Once again, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #9

So now I have to comment on the article itself and not the editorial comments in the OP? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #10

The article does deal with the terrible tactics employed by the Chinese Government. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #11

So now I'm ignoring it if I don't follow your marching orders? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #12

So why are you posting in the religion group? Lordquinton Jan 2019 #14

So he can make half-fast cowardly accusations of intolerance evidently Major Nikon Jan 2019 #71

And yet when humans behave decently, you never hesitate to give credit to religion. trotsky Jan 2019 #18

Not actually the case. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #20

Actually the case. trotsky Jan 2019 #22

It really helps in China to be part of the majority. Igel Jan 2019 #5

My view is that the goal is political, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #7

So you're saying this has nothing to do with religion? Lordquinton Jan 2019 #15

No, I am saying something different. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #19

Do you think China should be more tolerant of the Turkistan Islamic Party? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #25

I think that the leaders of the Chinese Government should not be totalitarians. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #28

You didn't answer the question Major Nikon Jan 2019 #31

Start another post in GD. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #32

Meanwhile you still didn't answer the question Major Nikon Jan 2019 #33

I did answer. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #34

I didn't ask you to repeat your argle-bargle Major Nikon Jan 2019 #35

China Sends 1.1 Million Party Members to Share Uighurs' Homes guillaumeb Jan 2019 #38

No shit Major Nikon Jan 2019 #39

My ending remarks: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #41

I would prefer you just answer my question from #25 that you still haven't Major Nikon Jan 2019 #42

Follow MM's advice. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #43

Blaming your refusal to engage in discussion on someone else is also revealing Major Nikon Jan 2019 #44

That is how Gil practices Christianity. Mariana Jan 2019 #75

MK's replies are an example if diversion. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #81

Please stop calling me out like that. MineralMan Jan 2019 #79

Simply repeating your own advice. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #80

I speak for myself. I insist that you not speak for me, MineralMan Jan 2019 #82

And do you feel free to speak for theists? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #83

Not the same thing in any way. MineralMan Jan 2019 #84

Creating another rule? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #85

Just fucking stop doing what he asked you to stop doing. trotsky Jan 2019 #89

I loved my response: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #90

Just fucking stop doing what he asked you to stop doing. trotsky Jan 2019 #91

The double standard is evident. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #92

You claim to be a follower of Jesus. trotsky Jan 2019 #93

Refer to my previous reply. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #94

You just keep pointing at the motes in others' eyes while ignoring the plank in your own. trotsky Jan 2019 #95

And keep avoiding the substance if the post. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #96

Yes, "we" do. trotsky Jan 2019 #97

1.1 million spies being placed in the homes of theists. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #98

It is their totalitarian government responsible for this behavior. trotsky Jan 2019 #99

And the leaders of this totalitarian Government are.....? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #100

I don't know which leaders are responsible, nor what they truly believe. trotsky Jan 2019 #101

The leaders are atheists. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #102

But you made an additional claim. trotsky Jan 2019 #103

No, I did not make that claim. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #104

So you now admit atheism had nothing to do with this? trotsky Jan 2019 #105

Again with the misframing. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #106

Did atheism have anything to do with this or not? trotsky Jan 2019 #107

You are making accusations. 2 of them. Followed by another. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #108

I am asking a question. You won't answer it. trotsky Jan 2019 #109

Admit what you did. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #110

I fully admit I'm asking a question. trotsky Jan 2019 #111

I understand your refusal. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #112

Motte and bailey. n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #113

Avoidance. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #114

I will have to look for those post edhopper Jan 2019 #16

Good luck with that Major Nikon Jan 2019 #40

Whatever. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #17

We agree that this is totalitarianism. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #21

"totalitarians are not limited to theists" trotsky Jan 2019 #23

Well, you could discuss the actual post, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #29

How about you discuss the actual post then? trotsky Jan 2019 #37

I'm sure we agree on a great many things. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #26

What leads you to assume that the mass of the Chinese people support their own Government? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #30

What leads you to believe they don't? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #36

While in Saudi Arabia... edhopper Jan 2019 #24

Except for the fact that I ended by writing: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #27

So what is your point? edhopper Jan 2019 #46

Simply pointing out the obvious. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #47

Are they doing it becaue of atheism. edhopper Jan 2019 #49

They are doing it because they are totalitarians. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #50

The Saudis clearly state they are doing it because of Islam edhopper Jan 2019 #55

The Saudis make this claim. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #57

of course not edhopper Jan 2019 #58

Totalitarians make claims to justify what they choose to do. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #59

So no one is motivated by religion? edhopper Jan 2019 #60

People are motivated to do what they want. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #61

"if they can claim that it is for a higher purpose, so much the better." trotsky Jan 2019 #72

Dangerous? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #73

#Whataboutism n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #74

Avoidance eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #76

Oh absolutely. trotsky Jan 2019 #86

Read the post. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #87

So says Captain Avoidance. trotsky Jan 2019 #88

It certainly can be. German Nazis were MineralMan Jan 2019 #77

We agree on this. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #78

Notice how you just get a repeat of the sermon rather than an answer Major Nikon Jan 2019 #53

You don't even need to go that far Major Nikon Jan 2019 #45

I could read these talking points on other sites. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #48

Name one Major Nikon Jan 2019 #51

Victim blaming. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #52

You should go back and read what I wrote Major Nikon Jan 2019 #54

I did. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #56

So now let's explore all the ways you are full of shit Major Nikon Jan 2019 #62

Yes, call it sarcasm. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #63

"Evil atheism" is Islamophobia? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #64

You are amazing. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #65

I see you have no defense for your ad hominem fuckery Major Nikon Jan 2019 #66

Your own words are my defense. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #67

My own words already detailed your fuck up Major Nikon Jan 2019 #68

Congratulations on convincing yourself. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #69

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