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guillaumeb

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59. Totalitarians make claims to justify what they choose to do.

Reply to edhopper (Reply #58)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 06:52 PM

Jan 2019

It provides external validation.

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China Sends 1.1 Million Party Members to Share Uighurs' Homes [View all] guillaumeb Jan 2019 OP

Can you imagine having to host a trumpist in your home? (shiver) Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #1

No. Not once dessert is over. dameatball Jan 2019 #2

Imagine if it were a family member. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #3

Family is family, you deal with it, Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #13

So because bad behavior is possible without religion... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #4

Missed. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #6

Bullshit. You made this about religion and posted it in the religion group Major Nikon Jan 2019 #8

Once again, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #9

So now I have to comment on the article itself and not the editorial comments in the OP? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #10

The article does deal with the terrible tactics employed by the Chinese Government. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #11

So now I'm ignoring it if I don't follow your marching orders? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #12

So why are you posting in the religion group? Lordquinton Jan 2019 #14

So he can make half-fast cowardly accusations of intolerance evidently Major Nikon Jan 2019 #71

And yet when humans behave decently, you never hesitate to give credit to religion. trotsky Jan 2019 #18

Not actually the case. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #20

Actually the case. trotsky Jan 2019 #22

It really helps in China to be part of the majority. Igel Jan 2019 #5

My view is that the goal is political, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #7

So you're saying this has nothing to do with religion? Lordquinton Jan 2019 #15

No, I am saying something different. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #19

Do you think China should be more tolerant of the Turkistan Islamic Party? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #25

I think that the leaders of the Chinese Government should not be totalitarians. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #28

You didn't answer the question Major Nikon Jan 2019 #31

Start another post in GD. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #32

Meanwhile you still didn't answer the question Major Nikon Jan 2019 #33

I did answer. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #34

I didn't ask you to repeat your argle-bargle Major Nikon Jan 2019 #35

China Sends 1.1 Million Party Members to Share Uighurs' Homes guillaumeb Jan 2019 #38

No shit Major Nikon Jan 2019 #39

My ending remarks: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #41

I would prefer you just answer my question from #25 that you still haven't Major Nikon Jan 2019 #42

Follow MM's advice. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #43

Blaming your refusal to engage in discussion on someone else is also revealing Major Nikon Jan 2019 #44

That is how Gil practices Christianity. Mariana Jan 2019 #75

MK's replies are an example if diversion. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #81

Please stop calling me out like that. MineralMan Jan 2019 #79

Simply repeating your own advice. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #80

I speak for myself. I insist that you not speak for me, MineralMan Jan 2019 #82

And do you feel free to speak for theists? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #83

Not the same thing in any way. MineralMan Jan 2019 #84

Creating another rule? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #85

Just fucking stop doing what he asked you to stop doing. trotsky Jan 2019 #89

I loved my response: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #90

Just fucking stop doing what he asked you to stop doing. trotsky Jan 2019 #91

The double standard is evident. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #92

You claim to be a follower of Jesus. trotsky Jan 2019 #93

Refer to my previous reply. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #94

You just keep pointing at the motes in others' eyes while ignoring the plank in your own. trotsky Jan 2019 #95

And keep avoiding the substance if the post. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #96

Yes, "we" do. trotsky Jan 2019 #97

1.1 million spies being placed in the homes of theists. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #98

It is their totalitarian government responsible for this behavior. trotsky Jan 2019 #99

And the leaders of this totalitarian Government are.....? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #100

I don't know which leaders are responsible, nor what they truly believe. trotsky Jan 2019 #101

The leaders are atheists. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #102

But you made an additional claim. trotsky Jan 2019 #103

No, I did not make that claim. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #104

So you now admit atheism had nothing to do with this? trotsky Jan 2019 #105

Again with the misframing. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #106

Did atheism have anything to do with this or not? trotsky Jan 2019 #107

You are making accusations. 2 of them. Followed by another. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #108

I am asking a question. You won't answer it. trotsky Jan 2019 #109

Admit what you did. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #110

I fully admit I'm asking a question. trotsky Jan 2019 #111

I understand your refusal. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #112

Motte and bailey. n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #113

Avoidance. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #114

I will have to look for those post edhopper Jan 2019 #16

Good luck with that Major Nikon Jan 2019 #40

Whatever. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #17

We agree that this is totalitarianism. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #21

"totalitarians are not limited to theists" trotsky Jan 2019 #23

Well, you could discuss the actual post, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #29

How about you discuss the actual post then? trotsky Jan 2019 #37

I'm sure we agree on a great many things. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #26

What leads you to assume that the mass of the Chinese people support their own Government? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #30

What leads you to believe they don't? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #36

While in Saudi Arabia... edhopper Jan 2019 #24

Except for the fact that I ended by writing: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #27

So what is your point? edhopper Jan 2019 #46

Simply pointing out the obvious. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #47

Are they doing it becaue of atheism. edhopper Jan 2019 #49

They are doing it because they are totalitarians. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #50

The Saudis clearly state they are doing it because of Islam edhopper Jan 2019 #55

The Saudis make this claim. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #57

of course not edhopper Jan 2019 #58

Totalitarians make claims to justify what they choose to do. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #59

So no one is motivated by religion? edhopper Jan 2019 #60

People are motivated to do what they want. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #61

"if they can claim that it is for a higher purpose, so much the better." trotsky Jan 2019 #72

Dangerous? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #73

#Whataboutism n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #74

Avoidance eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #76

Oh absolutely. trotsky Jan 2019 #86

Read the post. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #87

So says Captain Avoidance. trotsky Jan 2019 #88

It certainly can be. German Nazis were MineralMan Jan 2019 #77

We agree on this. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #78

Notice how you just get a repeat of the sermon rather than an answer Major Nikon Jan 2019 #53

You don't even need to go that far Major Nikon Jan 2019 #45

I could read these talking points on other sites. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #48

Name one Major Nikon Jan 2019 #51

Victim blaming. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #52

You should go back and read what I wrote Major Nikon Jan 2019 #54

I did. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #56

So now let's explore all the ways you are full of shit Major Nikon Jan 2019 #62

Yes, call it sarcasm. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #63

"Evil atheism" is Islamophobia? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #64

You are amazing. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #65

I see you have no defense for your ad hominem fuckery Major Nikon Jan 2019 #66

Your own words are my defense. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #67

My own words already detailed your fuck up Major Nikon Jan 2019 #68

Congratulations on convincing yourself. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #69

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