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Child rape apologia. A brutal accusation to make. [View all]
I posted an article, and the following 3 edited accusations were made that the article is actually a form of child rape apologia.
Major Nikon (30,905 posts)
7. Kinda fucked up to suggest religion has no role to play
Child rape apologia has no place here. Not anywhere else for that matter.
7. Kinda fucked up to suggest religion has no role to play
Child rape apologia has no place here. Not anywhere else for that matter.
Response to guillaumeb (Reply #98)
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:31 AM
Major Nikon (30,905 posts)
120. Another article from the exact same RCC sponsored child rape apologist
So it looks like you are at least 2 for 2 in cheering on child rape apologists, Gil. Good job.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:31 AM
Major Nikon (30,905 posts)
120. Another article from the exact same RCC sponsored child rape apologist
So it looks like you are at least 2 for 2 in cheering on child rape apologists, Gil. Good job.
Response to guillaumeb (Reply #122)
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 12:19 PM
Major Nikon (30,905 posts)
124. Yeah, my tactic is to call out child rape apologia when I see it
While yours is to regurgitate and defend it.
And yes, Gil. We do need more at least so long as the child rape apologists continue to rush to the defense of child rapists and their enablers. Very telling you'd think otherwise.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 12:19 PM
Major Nikon (30,905 posts)
124. Yeah, my tactic is to call out child rape apologia when I see it
While yours is to regurgitate and defend it.
And yes, Gil. We do need more at least so long as the child rape apologists continue to rush to the defense of child rapists and their enablers. Very telling you'd think otherwise.
All of the above accusations from this post:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1218304980
Now, from the actual article:
Because of the failure of Catholic bishops in the past to report abusive priests to authorities, states are now also including Catholic clergy as mandatory reporters.
Most bishops do not oppose making Catholic clergymen mandatory reporters except when it comes to what a priest hears in the sacrament of confession.
This confidentiality of confession was respected by Western nations for centuries, considering it on a par with client-attorney confidentiality. Note that no state is proposing that lawyers be mandatory reporters of what they learn about sexual abuse from their clients.
Because laws vary from state to state, we need to have a national conversation over disclosure laws with input from victims, legal scholars and those covered.
And while everyone would agree that the abuse of a child should be reported, what if the information comes from an adult survivor who does not want the crime reported?
Priests, like psychologists and psychiatrists, should be covered by mandatory reporting rules with an exemption for confession, but there needs to be a serious discussion of exactly what should be covered. In these discussions the victims should have a prominent role.
Most bishops do not oppose making Catholic clergymen mandatory reporters except when it comes to what a priest hears in the sacrament of confession.
This confidentiality of confession was respected by Western nations for centuries, considering it on a par with client-attorney confidentiality. Note that no state is proposing that lawyers be mandatory reporters of what they learn about sexual abuse from their clients.
Because laws vary from state to state, we need to have a national conversation over disclosure laws with input from victims, legal scholars and those covered.
And while everyone would agree that the abuse of a child should be reported, what if the information comes from an adult survivor who does not want the crime reported?
Priests, like psychologists and psychiatrists, should be covered by mandatory reporting rules with an exemption for confession, but there needs to be a serious discussion of exactly what should be covered. In these discussions the victims should have a prominent role.
So we have, in order:
A recognition that the RCC has failed in not reporting, and
most Bishops support mandatory reporting, with a proviso, and
the abuse of a child should be reported, and
Priests should be covered, again with a proviso for confession.
most Bishops support mandatory reporting, with a proviso, and
the abuse of a child should be reported, and
Priests should be covered, again with a proviso for confession.
How anyone can reasonably infer that the author is a rape apologist is beyond me. This is an open acknowlegdement of the problem and a call for changes in the law to address the problem.
And in my view, such accusations of rape apology reflect an interest in shutting down dialogue, not encouraging it.
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You feel the things you post here are in the interest of dialogue and debate?
Act_of_Reparation
Jan 2019
#21
And there is this reply, from the original thread, that you ignored or missed:
guillaumeb
Jan 2019
#14
The RCC is the one supporting the position that makes it easier to rape children
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#79
Explain again how you are unsure that child rape prevention laws are a good idea
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#86
Well some men have been sticking their dicks in strange objects for thousands of years
marylandblue
Jan 2019
#151
So what kind of grade did you earn for calling multiple people here "intolerant", Gil?
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#99
If you want to pretend I'm agreeing with the RCCs child rape apologia have at it
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#69
Yeah, some are unsure about whether or not child rape prevention laws are a good idea
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#81
The Pope could change the Cannon laws regarding confessor confidentiality.
njhoneybadger
Jan 2019
#107
Already did, Gil. You know the one you dismissed within moments of it being posted
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#168
Why are you even posting something that has absolutely nothing to do with mandatory reporting, Gil?
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#167
The article has nothing to do with mandatory reporting, Gil. Nada. Zip. Not even mentioned.
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#172
Sure, Gil. What better "author" than a RCC priest to tell us what won't prevent child rape
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#161
No Gil, delusion is thinking the RCC is where you go to get solutions for child rape prevention
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#165
Nobody said predators will "simply stop" and that is not the purpose of mandatory reporting
marylandblue
Jan 2019
#170
You said you were "unsure" if the RCC should be required to tell the authorities about child rape
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#173
And that was based on the information that the author wrote as to the efficacy
guillaumeb
Jan 2019
#174
The author is an RCC priest who is saying secular laws on child rape shouldn't apply to the RCC
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#175
Yeah, kinda funny how you claim there's a contradiction which you refuse to explain
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#189
The priest wants an exception for confession, and people here object to that
marylandblue
Jan 2019
#180
The RCC thinks the RCC should be exempt from laws that protect children from child rape
Major Nikon
Jan 2019
#182