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SoFlaDem

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46. These people I spoke of

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 10:06 AM

Feb 2019

What evidence are you relying on that this involves a "placebo effect which may result in some benefit is actually a poor substitute for professional help"? And in the example I gave, what kind of professional help do think is available to poor black families in Southern Texas? Especially when they may have no psychological diagnosis, just the burden and stress of having to live in poverty under a system of oppression and discrimination.

Also, I am not aware of any evidence that religion somehow leads to addiction and/or family disunity, I would be interested to see such because statement like those you made could easily be influenced by a personal bias, I would think.

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Say! I think you may be onto something there! MineralMan Feb 2019 #2

So on the mark CommonSenseMom Feb 2019 #10

A Protestant might say you are right exboyfil Feb 2019 #3

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They didn't learn that from my Sunday School exboyfil Feb 2019 #6

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I'll bet with those odds Cartoonist Feb 2019 #13

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Why do cats purr? Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #14

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I'm talking about individuals...personal religious observation, not harmful Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #18

And I'm talking about Religion in general, not individuals. MineralMan Feb 2019 #19

Hi MineralMan - A very interesting question. Pendrench Feb 2019 #15

One's experience of religion or any other philosophy MineralMan Feb 2019 #17

Agreed - what I posted are my own thoughts/beliefs. Pendrench Feb 2019 #26

There are actual health benefits from religious observation Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #20

There are health benefits from meditation, exercise, and many other MineralMan Feb 2019 #21

you were previously comparing to superstitution ... Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #24

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Sure it does. Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #41

They're all good boys. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #43

Lmmfao.... Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #53

Man! Glamrock Feb 2019 #56

Chihuahuas, too. MineralMan Feb 2019 #60

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The first study does not compare MineralMan Feb 2019 #27

I showed that religious observation had improve outcomes Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #32

Without reading the actual study, I can't say all that much. MineralMan Feb 2019 #33

yes, I gave you a summary Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #34

Where are the links to the studies you summarized? MineralMan Feb 2019 #35

I gave you enough information to find them Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #36

Never mind. You made the claim. MineralMan Feb 2019 #37

the claim? Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #38

Not unhappy. Indifferent. MineralMan Feb 2019 #39

That doesn't say what you think it says Major Nikon Feb 2019 #44

There is an emotional factor overlooked here SoFlaDem Feb 2019 #22

Well, perhaps religion also allows people to ignore reality. MineralMan Feb 2019 #23

In the example I gave SoFlaDem Feb 2019 #40

Aren't you also overlooking the negative aspects? Major Nikon Feb 2019 #45

These people I spoke of SoFlaDem Feb 2019 #46

So you site anecdotal evidence, but demand hard evidence from others? Major Nikon Feb 2019 #47

I don't demand anything SoFlaDem Feb 2019 #48

"sweeping statement" Major Nikon Feb 2019 #49

Not at all SoFlaDem Feb 2019 #50

I'm also fine with that Major Nikon Feb 2019 #55

I agree some fundamentalist religion seems to have negative consequences SoFlaDem Feb 2019 #58

Or maybe not Major Nikon Feb 2019 #59

I have never said the problem never exists SoFlaDem Feb 2019 #61

How about the Civil Rights movement? Major Nikon Feb 2019 #66

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I did not say "Religious Group" nightwing1240 Feb 2019 #67

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A pattern demonstrated. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #69

Yes, indeed. MineralMan Feb 2019 #70

"Nobody here is obligated to answer questions" nightwing1240 Feb 2019 #72

I'm not going to mock religions here... uriel1972 Feb 2019 #75

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I am not whining nor do I have the sads and I'm certainly not suffering nightwing1240 Feb 2019 #87

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I was NOT complaining nor was I being hypcritical nightwing1240 Feb 2019 #82

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Yep, put it on me nightwing1240 Feb 2019 #88

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And there it is... NeoGreen Feb 2019 #74

My faith and beliefs are not weak nightwing1240 Feb 2019 #83

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