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In reply to the discussion: Jumping on the Whataboutism Bandwagon [View all]MineralMan
(147,606 posts)45. Well, there it is, I guess.
Il a des idées fixes. (He has fixed ideas.)
There are a couple of people on DU who are fixed on the horrors of circumcision. From time to time, they introduce a thread about that topic in another forum. There used to be a couple of people like that on the old CompuServe Religion and Politics forums, too. I don't know - maybe they're the same people. The point is that there was no point in discussing the issue with them. It was impossible to make any headway in getting them to discuss it in any sort of rational way.
Religion is even more of an idée fixe, and has even more people who will argue endlessly with no possibility of change. Fortunately, there are other people around who like to discuss religion from a more flexible perspective. There will always be those in any such discussion, though, who will persist and argue with broken logic and fixed ideas. There's no way around that, I'm afraid.
It's tempting, sometimes, to use ridicule and other tactics with people like that. I know that I fall victim to that temptation at at times. It's hard to resist. But, it will not change anything, and especially will not unfix someone ideas if they are rigid in their thinking.
So, there it is, I guess.
There are a couple of people on DU who are fixed on the horrors of circumcision. From time to time, they introduce a thread about that topic in another forum. There used to be a couple of people like that on the old CompuServe Religion and Politics forums, too. I don't know - maybe they're the same people. The point is that there was no point in discussing the issue with them. It was impossible to make any headway in getting them to discuss it in any sort of rational way.
Religion is even more of an idée fixe, and has even more people who will argue endlessly with no possibility of change. Fortunately, there are other people around who like to discuss religion from a more flexible perspective. There will always be those in any such discussion, though, who will persist and argue with broken logic and fixed ideas. There's no way around that, I'm afraid.
It's tempting, sometimes, to use ridicule and other tactics with people like that. I know that I fall victim to that temptation at at times. It's hard to resist. But, it will not change anything, and especially will not unfix someone ideas if they are rigid in their thinking.
So, there it is, I guess.
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Someone is working overtime to gaslight everyone into believing their fallacy isn't a fallacy
Major Nikon
Mar 2019
#2
Please explain why simplicable.com is a better source on this than Merriam Webster.
trotsky
Mar 2019
#12
Actually studying the issue is so much harder than making an assertion. Correct?
guillaumeb
Apr 2019
#55
The optometrist might be able to help you find those assertions that you made about my posts.
guillaumeb
Apr 2019
#68
A large scandal in a large organization is much worse than in a small organization
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#85
What about when an organization has its own power structure and "legal system"...
trotsky
Apr 2019
#93
But it suggests, perhaps, that an organization should not be allowed to have such a structure.
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#96
According to some we can't even take the steps that are already working with other organizations
Major Nikon
Apr 2019
#99
How long does he get to play this damn game while trying to pretend he's the real victim?
trotsky
Apr 2019
#37
Without having seen all the posts in question, I've got a working assumption:
Pope George Ringo II
Mar 2019
#13
My hat's off to those of you who suffer through trying to correct the irredeemable.
Pope George Ringo II
Mar 2019
#25