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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
1. "living in accordance with the message of Jesus"
Tue May 21, 2019, 01:38 PM
May 2019

How does anyone truly know what the "message of Jesus" is?

The man, if he existed, left no written words of his own.

Everything we know about the man, if he existed, is third-hand AT BEST.

Looking at the history of Christianity, the conflict and strife in the religion has generally been over disagreements as to what that "message of Jesus" is. Christians have literally killed each other over them, and the end result is that we are still no closer to universal agreement as to what the actual "message of Jesus" entails.

Maybe it's time to dump the approach of "living in accordance with the message of Jesus"?

Or do you, guillaumeb, claim to be the sole human being in the world who KNOWS with 100% certainty what that message is?

"living in accordance with the message of Jesus" trotsky May 2019 #1
Perhaps you could abandon the reflexive attack. guillaumeb May 2019 #2
You made a statement containing an assumption. trotsky May 2019 #3
I made a statement of belief. guillaumeb May 2019 #7
You ruin DU, yes. trotsky May 2019 #16
96% of the time spent in one Group. guillaumeb May 2019 #20
Why does it matter to you where I post? trotsky May 2019 #28
And you spend 48% of your time posting here, MineralMan May 2019 #34
This is for mineralman...seems like my replies always end up any old place. Karadeniz May 2019 #40
IF I am whatsisname.... uriel1972 May 2019 #41
This is what "whatshisname" actually said to you: Mariana May 2019 #42
It's a "chewing out" in exactly the same way... trotsky May 2019 #49
"The encrypted parables..." Voltaire2 May 2019 #44
I think I have a good handle on the message of Jesus, having thought about the writings for fifty-fi Karadeniz May 2019 #39
Do you think you're 100% right? trotsky May 2019 #48
What do you mean "lost"? Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #54
Never heard of her. MineralMan May 2019 #4
Circles unfamiliar to you. guillaumeb May 2019 #5
Oh, I see. MineralMan May 2019 #9
Anti-choice circles. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #6
You might want to do some reading. guillaumeb May 2019 #8
You mean the article where she describes herself as "pro-life" in the first sentence. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #12
The article where she states she will vote for Clinton. guillaumeb May 2019 #14
Zero. Fucks. Given. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #18
We all know. guillaumeb May 2019 #22
She also states that her position on abortion remains unchanged. trotsky May 2019 #21
So you only vote for 100% progressives? guillaumeb May 2019 #23
Why are you changing the subject? trotsky May 2019 #29
If I remember correctly, so is guilliaumeb, at MineralMan May 2019 #38
https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/pro-life-voting-for-hillary-clinton guillaumeb May 2019 #11
She identifies as "pro-life" in that article. trotsky May 2019 #24
Did you read the article? guillaumeb May 2019 #27
Yes I did. trotsky May 2019 #31
She also advocated for more legal restrictions on abortion Major Nikon May 2019 #37
"support more legal restrictions around it" trotsky May 2019 #47
Obviously thought women and their doctors shouldn't be making informed medical decisions Major Nikon May 2019 #50
So desperate to control, that instead of answering a simple question... trotsky May 2019 #57
While pretending to be a victim Major Nikon May 2019 #60
It really is telling that pretty much every "Progressive Person of Faith" he's hauled before us... Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #52
And if you object to any of that... trotsky May 2019 #56
It's fascinating, isn't it? Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #59
and is generally quoted with some statement that excludes the godless heathens Voltaire2 May 2019 #58
You mean how they try to take ownership of every bit of progress we've made over the years? Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #61
Why would I want that information, exactly? MineralMan May 2019 #26
I understand. guillaumeb May 2019 #30
She single-handedly converted legions of Evangelicals to a milder, slightly less offensive theology. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #33
Do we need another Rachel? Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #10
Did you read the link I provided? guillaumeb May 2019 #13
You know there are means to knowledge more reliable than guessing, right? Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #15
Confirmation. guillaumeb May 2019 #17
Aardvark. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #19
Yes, you are. guillaumeb May 2019 #25
Bouyant. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #32
Mayonnaise. Voltaire2 May 2019 #45
Aioli Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #46
There are three threads on the front page of this Group MineralMan May 2019 #35
I doubt the OP previously knew who she was Major Nikon May 2019 #36
Even sporadically liberal people are given hell by most Christians Bretton Garcia May 2019 #43
Are all atheists liberal? guillaumeb May 2019 #63
Wow. cilla4progress May 2019 #51
Nice post and link. Surprised at the tone of some of the comments here. Raven123 May 2019 #53
This is religion forum. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #55
The tone is ever present. guillaumeb May 2019 #64
Yeah, imagine that, progressives hesitant to embrace an anti-choicer. trotsky May 2019 #66
The tone is ever present. guillaumeb May 2019 #67
I will never apologize for opposing those who would restrict a woman's right to an abortion. trotsky May 2019 #68
You build much with straw. guillaumeb May 2019 #69
I will never apologize for opposing those who would restrict a woman's right to an abortion. trotsky May 2019 #70
So your claim is rhetorical? guillaumeb May 2019 #71
I don't know, is it? trotsky May 2019 #72
Who has always been our Rachel? tonedevil May 2019 #62
Yes. She is the eternal Rachel. Voltaire2 May 2019 #65
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