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guillaumeb

(42,649 posts) Fri Jul 5, 2019, 05:53 PM Jul 2019

Rumi and the Vision of the Qur'an [View all]

From the article:

Mevlana says:

The peerless God has made all the six directions a theater
for the display of His signs to the clear-seeing,
so that, whatever animal or plant they look upon,
they may feed on the meadows of divine Beauty.
And so He said to the mystic companions,
“Wherever you turn, there is the face of God.”

To read more:

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/livingtradition/2018/07/1036/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Muslim&utm_content=49

And this is also what I say when anyone asks, where is the proof of the Creator?

Wherever you turn, there is the face of God.

Faith, of course, is the seeing.

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Rumi and the Vision of the Qur'an [View all] guillaumeb Jul 2019 OP

I don't entirely agree. The God System...Christian version...consists of different levels, Karadeniz Jul 2019 #1

I admit to reading a bit of Rumi. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #2

But? 1) There are many things that FEEL or SEEM good, that are not good for you, or others. Bretton Garcia Jul 2019 #3

Unwarranted self-confidence in one's ability to analyze things guillaumeb Jul 2019 #6

Careful analysis, logic, have lead to science Bretton Garcia Jul 2019 #12

Analysis and logic still depend on the ability of the analyst or the logician. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #29

Variations in logic are corrected Bretton Garcia Jul 2019 #49

The pantheistic view is not incompatible with atheism. Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #4

Some people are afraid of the dark Major Nikon Jul 2019 #5

True intellectual maturity is recognizing the limitations of human intelligence. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #8

It does help to turn on the light. AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #22

I claim faith. eom guillaumeb Jul 2019 #30

No, you ALSO claim I am limited. AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #32

This is what I claim: guillaumeb Jul 2019 #33

I'm responding to what you said. AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #34

You started reasonably. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #7

Er um no I didn't do that. Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #9

Yes, you did. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #10

Poster called it 'bullshit'. AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #21

Sure, if you just go substitute other words than the ones I wrote, then you are correct. Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #23

Some need to create imagined arguments they can then refute Major Nikon Jul 2019 #11

I mean look at his OP for Koresh's sake. trotsky Jul 2019 #15

Then he loses his shit if someone uses the word "delusion" Major Nikon Jul 2019 #18

And the reason is religious privilege, of course. trotsky Jul 2019 #19

Once again, you misinterpret what I said. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #31

You repeated it. You therefore made it your own sentiment as well. trotsky Jul 2019 #35

You misattributed to me words that are not mine. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #36

You didn't put the words in quotes. trotsky Jul 2019 #37

An exceptionally weak response. Here is the actual original post: guillaumeb Jul 2019 #38

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jul 2019 #39

Keep building your narrative. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #44

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jul 2019 #45

Keep building that narrative. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #48

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jul 2019 #50

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jul 2019 #63

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jul 2019 #70

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jul 2019 #71

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jul 2019 #72

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jul 2019 #73

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Aug 2019 #74

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Aug 2019 #75

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Aug 2019 #77

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Aug 2019 #78

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Aug 2019 #79

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Aug 2019 #80

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Aug 2019 #81

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Aug 2019 #84

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Sep 2019 #85

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Sep 2019 #86

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Sep 2019 #87

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Sep 2019 #88

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Sep 2019 #89

What? Still no response? MineralMan Sep 2019 #90

Yeah, weird, huh? trotsky Sep 2019 #92

Weird, indeed. MineralMan Sep 2019 #94

I completely accept his narrative edhopper Sep 2019 #91

Crazy how he could have just admitted his error from the get-go, trotsky Sep 2019 #93

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Sep 2019 #95

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Sep 2019 #96

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Sep 2019 #97

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Sep 2019 #98

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #99

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #100

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #102

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #103

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #104

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #105

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #106

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #107

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #108

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #109

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Oct 2019 #110

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Nov 2019 #111

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Nov 2019 #112

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Nov 2019 #113

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Nov 2019 #114

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Nov 2019 #116

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Nov 2019 #117

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Nov 2019 #118

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Dec 2019 #119

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Dec 2019 #120

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Dec 2019 #121

"GUIL!!!!!!" edhopper Dec 2019 #122

LOL! trotsky Dec 2019 #123

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Dec 2019 #124

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Dec 2019 #125

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Dec 2019 #126

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Dec 2019 #127

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Dec 2019 #128

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jan 2020 #129

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jan 2020 #130

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jan 2020 #131

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jan 2020 #132

Came here to find out why the fuck this thread is still kicking along. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #133

Crazy, huh? trotsky Jan 2020 #134

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Feb 2020 #135

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Feb 2020 #136

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Feb 2020 #137

Imagine if an Uihgur in China edhopper Feb 2020 #138

Surely a sign of how horrible those evil Chinese atheists are. trotsky Feb 2020 #139

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Mar 2020 #140

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Apr 2020 #141

If you look edhopper Jul 2019 #13

A turd that floats on one end looks like an alligator Major Nikon Jul 2019 #26

And one that sinks to the bottom looks like a Baby Ruth bar. MineralMan Jul 2019 #46

That version of 'god' is merely a function of Pareidolia... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #47

"Wherever you turn, there is the face of God." trotsky Jul 2019 #14

They don't see it either edhopper Jul 2019 #16

Oh yeah, and don't forget... trotsky Jul 2019 #17

It gets even better Major Nikon Jul 2019 #27

'When all you have is a hammer' AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #20

God Goggles hurl Jul 2019 #24

Are they like beer goggles? Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #25

... Major Nikon Jul 2019 #28

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1218316503 trotsky Jul 2019 #40

+100 MineralMan Jul 2019 #41

I thought maybe he might have missed the other thread. trotsky Jul 2019 #42

I'm sure the help will be appreciated. MineralMan Jul 2019 #43

that was very interesting! Brainstormy Jul 2019 #52

I wasn't charging anything for the opportunity. MineralMan Jul 2019 #53

"Nature is beautiful. Therefore God." - The plague would like to have a word with you. DetlefK Jul 2019 #51

"His signs to the clear-seeing" AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #54

C'mon. trotsky Jul 2019 #55

Seeing with faith. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #56

So are those of us without religious faith defective? n/t trotsky Jul 2019 #57

What would lead you to even suggest that? eom guillaumeb Jul 2019 #58

What is the opposite of 'clear-seeing'? AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #59

Never assume anything. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #60

You are dodging. AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #61

You have mis-stated my post... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #64

You. trotsky Jul 2019 #62

I understand. This is part of your narrative building attempt. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #65

Fuck your narrative bullshit. I'm asking you a question. trotsky Jul 2019 #66

'faith'... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #67

No, your narrative building simply took the form of a question. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #68

It's you who are building the narrative by refusing to answer that very simple question. trotsky Jul 2019 #69

No FAITH is NOT seeing... pangaia Aug 2019 #76

Faith is seeing throught the eyes of faith. eom guillaumeb Aug 2019 #82

Pump your brakes, Dr. Chopra. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #83

Jesus H. Christ Willy! thewhollytoast Oct 2019 #101

Wherever I turn on this thread there is the face of God. mia Nov 2019 #115