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3. It's Not Quite As Simple As That

Sun Jul 28, 2019, 05:54 PM

Jul 2019

There are issues of mistrust of the Gov. Legitimate nvironmental concerns and yes religious concerns, especially regarding burial grounds.

“Mauna Kea is also a conservation district with a number of fragile features: There are confirmed burial sites, it houses Hawaii’s only alpine lake, and it is home to endangered plants and animals who can only thrive at that altitude.

The mountain is also part of ceded land, once owned by the Hawaiian Kingdom, that is now held in a public land trust meant to benefit all Native Hawaiians ― on both sides of the debate.

Mauna Kea’s protectors are also concerned about how the project would impact a 35-acre watershed on the mountain and its aquifer, which supplies the island’s drinking water.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-native-hawaiians-protest-tmt-telescope_n_5d2f9120e4b004b6adaa8b0f

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Native Hawaiians Want To Halt A Massive Telescope Project. Here's Why [View all] edhopper Jul 2019 OP

The problem is that many religious arguments are provably wrong. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2019 #1

I agree. Religion (mythology) should typically yield to Science bitterross Jul 2019 #5

The hot spot responsible for Mauna Kea did "birth" all of Hawaii FBaggins Jul 2019 #2

That was a study citing a sample size of 78 Hawaiians. mahina Jul 2019 #6

I didn't reference a particular study. FBaggins Jul 2019 #10

There was only one and that is the one I linked for you. mahina Jul 2019 #12

There's only one? FBaggins Jul 2019 #14

If there was another survey that showed support in that range it would be in the mahina Jul 2019 #17

This I've got to hear FBaggins Jul 2019 #18

Didn't say anything about the DNC mahina Jul 2019 #19

The Democratic Party in Hawaii is part of the DNC FBaggins Jul 2019 #25

You completely misunderstand the scale of the problem. mahina Jul 2019 #26

Lol. I appreciate the entertainment. FBaggins Jul 2019 #27

It's Not Quite As Simple As That Me. Jul 2019 #3

More Me. Jul 2019 #4

Except this isn't the US government. n/t Igel Jul 2019 #7

To That I Would Have To Say That The US Presence Has Always been Felt In Hawaii Me. Jul 2019 #15

I agree there is more to it. edhopper Jul 2019 #9

Well THis May Not Be The Discussion You Intended Me. Jul 2019 #16

I don't mind edhopper Jul 2019 #21

Thanks, Me Hekate Jul 2019 #11

There's all sorts of differences Major Nikon Aug 2019 #40

Thank you. mahina Jul 2019 #20

Mahalo, Me, for your input Cha Jul 2019 #33

... Me. Jul 2019 #35

These things tend to be highly spun. Igel Jul 2019 #8

To be fair the money received would be split 80/20 mahina Jul 2019 #22

This might be something of a change of pace, but I kind of agree. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #46

I'm surprised but am supportive of the native rights...I thought that there were already ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2019 #13

Post #15 Me. Jul 2019 #23

There are many telescopes edhopper Jul 2019 #24

Probably don't want people with massive telescopes looking democratisphere Jul 2019 #28

That's Tahitian. mahina Jul 2019 #29

Hey! I needed grass skirt hula dancers and this is what boogle gave me. democratisphere Jul 2019 #30

Hey, no worse reasoning than some! mahina Jul 2019 #31

When I read stuff like this I tend to think about people PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #32

Ignorant? Me. Jul 2019 #34

Yeah, I know I'm extremely biased in favor of reality. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #36

Nice Try At Whataboutism Me. Jul 2019 #37

Nope. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #38

You're Stomping All Over Other's Beliefs Disrespectfully Me. Jul 2019 #39

If belief is free to promote itself... Major Nikon Aug 2019 #41

They Aren't Promoting Me. Aug 2019 #42

You are missing the point Major Nikon Aug 2019 #43

They Can Disparage It All They Want Me. Aug 2019 #44

That wasn't the point either Major Nikon Aug 2019 #45

That Was One Of My Points Me. Aug 2019 #47

I am Native American Major Nikon Aug 2019 #48

Of Course I'm Not In Favor Of Irredememably ChangIng Hawaii Me. Aug 2019 #50

You did make it clear as did I Major Nikon Aug 2019 #51

What? Me. Aug 2019 #52

On the one hand I am indifferent to 'sacredness'. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #49

Despite its small size, large parts of Hawaii are still relatively unspoiled Major Nikon Aug 2019 #53