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FBaggins

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10. I didn't reference a particular study.

Sun Jul 28, 2019, 06:47 PM

Jul 2019

My information comes from family in the area.

But the study you're referring to is hardly "misleading". If it's true that the native component was only 78 individuals, that just means that the MOE is in the 10-11 percent range. The study in the link you provided reported 72% support... so it might be as low as 60%. That still fits the conclusion that most native Hawaiians support the TMT.

Then it's also worth noting that they make up about 10% of the population of the state... and everyone else overwhelmingly supports the project. The real "misleading" has come from opponents of the project with blatant fearmongering as I posted above.

Here are a couple of others from a quick search.

https://bigislandnow.com/2016/07/28/letter-majority-of-native-hawaiians-support-tmt/

https://www.universetoday.com/130147/new-poll-shows-2-1-margin-support-hawaiians-thirty-meter-telescope/

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/07/23/tmt-supporters-say-they-are-silent-majority/

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Native Hawaiians Want To Halt A Massive Telescope Project. Here's Why [View all] edhopper Jul 2019 OP

The problem is that many religious arguments are provably wrong. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2019 #1

I agree. Religion (mythology) should typically yield to Science bitterross Jul 2019 #5

The hot spot responsible for Mauna Kea did "birth" all of Hawaii FBaggins Jul 2019 #2

That was a study citing a sample size of 78 Hawaiians. mahina Jul 2019 #6

I didn't reference a particular study. FBaggins Jul 2019 #10

There was only one and that is the one I linked for you. mahina Jul 2019 #12

There's only one? FBaggins Jul 2019 #14

If there was another survey that showed support in that range it would be in the mahina Jul 2019 #17

This I've got to hear FBaggins Jul 2019 #18

Didn't say anything about the DNC mahina Jul 2019 #19

The Democratic Party in Hawaii is part of the DNC FBaggins Jul 2019 #25

You completely misunderstand the scale of the problem. mahina Jul 2019 #26

Lol. I appreciate the entertainment. FBaggins Jul 2019 #27

It's Not Quite As Simple As That Me. Jul 2019 #3

More Me. Jul 2019 #4

Except this isn't the US government. n/t Igel Jul 2019 #7

To That I Would Have To Say That The US Presence Has Always been Felt In Hawaii Me. Jul 2019 #15

I agree there is more to it. edhopper Jul 2019 #9

Well THis May Not Be The Discussion You Intended Me. Jul 2019 #16

I don't mind edhopper Jul 2019 #21

Thanks, Me Hekate Jul 2019 #11

There's all sorts of differences Major Nikon Aug 2019 #40

Thank you. mahina Jul 2019 #20

Mahalo, Me, for your input Cha Jul 2019 #33

... Me. Jul 2019 #35

These things tend to be highly spun. Igel Jul 2019 #8

To be fair the money received would be split 80/20 mahina Jul 2019 #22

This might be something of a change of pace, but I kind of agree. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #46

I'm surprised but am supportive of the native rights...I thought that there were already ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2019 #13

Post #15 Me. Jul 2019 #23

There are many telescopes edhopper Jul 2019 #24

Probably don't want people with massive telescopes looking democratisphere Jul 2019 #28

That's Tahitian. mahina Jul 2019 #29

Hey! I needed grass skirt hula dancers and this is what boogle gave me. democratisphere Jul 2019 #30

Hey, no worse reasoning than some! mahina Jul 2019 #31

When I read stuff like this I tend to think about people PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #32

Ignorant? Me. Jul 2019 #34

Yeah, I know I'm extremely biased in favor of reality. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #36

Nice Try At Whataboutism Me. Jul 2019 #37

Nope. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #38

You're Stomping All Over Other's Beliefs Disrespectfully Me. Jul 2019 #39

If belief is free to promote itself... Major Nikon Aug 2019 #41

They Aren't Promoting Me. Aug 2019 #42

You are missing the point Major Nikon Aug 2019 #43

They Can Disparage It All They Want Me. Aug 2019 #44

That wasn't the point either Major Nikon Aug 2019 #45

That Was One Of My Points Me. Aug 2019 #47

I am Native American Major Nikon Aug 2019 #48

Of Course I'm Not In Favor Of Irredememably ChangIng Hawaii Me. Aug 2019 #50

You did make it clear as did I Major Nikon Aug 2019 #51

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On the one hand I am indifferent to 'sacredness'. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #49

Despite its small size, large parts of Hawaii are still relatively unspoiled Major Nikon Aug 2019 #53