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47. That Was One Of My Points

Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:49 PM

Aug 2019

and, just because it's not your thing is no reason to disparage, walk on by. The Hawaiian beliefs are precious to them and have been disrespected by this country ever since they stomped all over the Native Hawaiian culture and took over their islands, just like has been done with Native Americans. I don't participate in either but think both their beliefs should be honored. And because someone's son is an astronomer isn't reason enough to show disdain. Further, there are already 12 telescopes there but this is the bigger, better one that they want to plunk on top of the burial ground until there is an even bigger, better one they want to put there too.

As far as you and I agreeing...I don't think so.

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Native Hawaiians Want To Halt A Massive Telescope Project. Here's Why [View all] edhopper Jul 2019 OP

The problem is that many religious arguments are provably wrong. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2019 #1

I agree. Religion (mythology) should typically yield to Science bitterross Jul 2019 #5

The hot spot responsible for Mauna Kea did "birth" all of Hawaii FBaggins Jul 2019 #2

That was a study citing a sample size of 78 Hawaiians. mahina Jul 2019 #6

I didn't reference a particular study. FBaggins Jul 2019 #10

There was only one and that is the one I linked for you. mahina Jul 2019 #12

There's only one? FBaggins Jul 2019 #14

If there was another survey that showed support in that range it would be in the mahina Jul 2019 #17

This I've got to hear FBaggins Jul 2019 #18

Didn't say anything about the DNC mahina Jul 2019 #19

The Democratic Party in Hawaii is part of the DNC FBaggins Jul 2019 #25

You completely misunderstand the scale of the problem. mahina Jul 2019 #26

Lol. I appreciate the entertainment. FBaggins Jul 2019 #27

It's Not Quite As Simple As That Me. Jul 2019 #3

More Me. Jul 2019 #4

Except this isn't the US government. n/t Igel Jul 2019 #7

To That I Would Have To Say That The US Presence Has Always been Felt In Hawaii Me. Jul 2019 #15

I agree there is more to it. edhopper Jul 2019 #9

Well THis May Not Be The Discussion You Intended Me. Jul 2019 #16

I don't mind edhopper Jul 2019 #21

Thanks, Me Hekate Jul 2019 #11

There's all sorts of differences Major Nikon Aug 2019 #40

Thank you. mahina Jul 2019 #20

Mahalo, Me, for your input Cha Jul 2019 #33

... Me. Jul 2019 #35

These things tend to be highly spun. Igel Jul 2019 #8

To be fair the money received would be split 80/20 mahina Jul 2019 #22

This might be something of a change of pace, but I kind of agree. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #46

I'm surprised but am supportive of the native rights...I thought that there were already ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2019 #13

Post #15 Me. Jul 2019 #23

There are many telescopes edhopper Jul 2019 #24

Probably don't want people with massive telescopes looking democratisphere Jul 2019 #28

That's Tahitian. mahina Jul 2019 #29

Hey! I needed grass skirt hula dancers and this is what boogle gave me. democratisphere Jul 2019 #30

Hey, no worse reasoning than some! mahina Jul 2019 #31

When I read stuff like this I tend to think about people PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #32

Ignorant? Me. Jul 2019 #34

Yeah, I know I'm extremely biased in favor of reality. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #36

Nice Try At Whataboutism Me. Jul 2019 #37

Nope. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #38

You're Stomping All Over Other's Beliefs Disrespectfully Me. Jul 2019 #39

If belief is free to promote itself... Major Nikon Aug 2019 #41

They Aren't Promoting Me. Aug 2019 #42

You are missing the point Major Nikon Aug 2019 #43

They Can Disparage It All They Want Me. Aug 2019 #44

That wasn't the point either Major Nikon Aug 2019 #45

That Was One Of My Points Me. Aug 2019 #47

I am Native American Major Nikon Aug 2019 #48

Of Course I'm Not In Favor Of Irredememably ChangIng Hawaii Me. Aug 2019 #50

You did make it clear as did I Major Nikon Aug 2019 #51

What? Me. Aug 2019 #52

On the one hand I am indifferent to 'sacredness'. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #49

Despite its small size, large parts of Hawaii are still relatively unspoiled Major Nikon Aug 2019 #53