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In reply to the discussion: We do not have free will. [View all]trotsky
(49,533 posts)An actual constraint on free will would be your earlier example of not being able to fly, no matter how much you want to. No one can. That's what makes it a reasonable limit, because it applies to everyone.
But a person who was abused as a child is going to be more likely to choose to abuse others. This is not a "constraint," this is an event in a person's past that they couldn't control which is affecting their "free" choice in life. Other people who were loved and nurtured as children are much less likely to grow up to be abusers. They simply don't "choose" to abuse at anywhere near the same rate.
(It's very important to note here that this particular example is really damaging to Christian theology - a person is MORE LIKELY to "choose" to sin if they experience things outside their control.)
You have ceded enough ground in this debate to kill free will on your own. You just refuse to acknowledge it. I can understand why you threaten to withhold further responses.