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keithbvadu2

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83. "Faith doesn't require anything but belief."

Reply to edhopper (Reply #80)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:48 PM

Oct 2019

"Faith doesn't require anything but belief."

If the "true" Christian does not practice it, does he really believe it?

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In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace [View all] progressoid Oct 2019 OP

K&R reACTIONary Oct 2019 #1

Probably wouldn't be happening Cartaphelius Oct 2019 #103

When was Christianity not about wealth and power? Mariana Oct 2019 #108

Completely agree. Constantine did not convert because he was a true believer... Raster Oct 2019 #128

They're so hateful these days IronLionZion Oct 2019 #2

In my family I was considered to be the last person who would leave the Catholic Church 47of74 Oct 2019 #3

A ton of them are just awful. ramen Oct 2019 #12

Yes, For Us There is Liberation Theology at UCC McKim Oct 2019 #16

Yep, it depends on where you are. paleotn Oct 2019 #22

O RLY? Aquaria Oct 2019 #62

"These days"? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #24

Then liberals should win more elections IronLionZion Oct 2019 #27

That's a non-sequitur. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #29

I'm still hoping the rapture would happen already IronLionZion Oct 2019 #32

Agree. That's where I am directing SCantiGOP Oct 2019 #53

Maybe the rapture has already happened? And they are still here with us. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #55

You can almost tell what kind of Christian someone is by the political party they identify with. -nt CrispyQ Oct 2019 #129

Thank you, Jesus. Great news. 3Hotdogs Oct 2019 #4

+10 nt reACTIONary Oct 2019 #105

Thank god Major Nikon Oct 2019 #5

This can't happen quickly enough for me. mwb970 Oct 2019 #6

Their meddling and lying in politics has soured many. nt NCjack Oct 2019 #7

PRAISE KORESH!!! AZ8theist Oct 2019 #8

And thank you for that bit of atheistic bigotry. I knew that the DU atheists couldn't resist. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #14

What do you think about the news in the OP? nt. Mariana Oct 2019 #34

I already knew it. And to a large extent, the religious leaders have brought it on themselves. Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #43

Sounds like you made the perfect case for us Atheists. Eko Oct 2019 #52

"turned into a theocracy, with, of course, them in control." Going to be some religious wars. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #56

You're very welcome!! Anytime!! AZ8theist Oct 2019 #38

If I were to insult Jews. African-Americans or Hispanics or women or even atheists Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #41

Except they didn't insult religious people. trotsky Oct 2019 #42

And who has those beliefs? Religious people do. At least, some religious people do. Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #44

And yet, they're still just beliefs. Open to criticism, unless you prefer to censor that. trotsky Oct 2019 #45

Who holds these beliefs? PEOPLE do. You are insulting the people, and see nothing wrong with it Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #47

Yet ideas are still not people. You're flailing desperately. trotsky Oct 2019 #49

Thank you trotsky AZ8theist Oct 2019 #50

No problem, you're welcome. trotsky Oct 2019 #65

I'm pretty certain that Fortinbras Armstrong understood you, too Mariana Oct 2019 #72

You reveal your agenda regularly. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #88

You are completely wrong about me, as usual. But you've got your narrative I guess. trotsky Oct 2019 #95

Also as usual projects his bad behavior on others in true Freudian fashion Major Nikon Oct 2019 #98

It's remarkable the similarity his tactics have with GOP/Soviet-style propaganda techniques. trotsky Oct 2019 #99

Notable, but not all that remarkable Major Nikon Oct 2019 #100

Ironic, and that is all that needs to be said. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #123

Your behavior is on display. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #124

Indeed it is. And so is yours. trotsky Oct 2019 #131

Get back to us when someone actually insults people instead of an idea Major Nikon Oct 2019 #90

Right on, Major.. AZ8theist Oct 2019 #125

Long time no see... MineralMan Oct 2019 #89

Conservatives Christians are their own worst enemies Martin Eden Oct 2019 #9

That's actually a good thing. calimary Oct 2019 #19

Though agnostic myself, I'm not anti-faith Martin Eden Oct 2019 #21

No kidding! calimary Oct 2019 #33

Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #58

Or maybe young people figured out it's all just a bunch of bullshit. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #25

One size does not fit all Martin Eden Oct 2019 #30

Except Agnosticism isn't a religious belief. Aquaria Oct 2019 #61

welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2019 #63

I didn't suggest it was Martin Eden Oct 2019 #64

"I don't have a belief, because I don't know." trotsky Oct 2019 #66

EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING is an Agnostic... AZ8theist Oct 2019 #127

And yet believers will work overtime trying to convince everyone otherwise Major Nikon Oct 2019 #130

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #57

Most of them probably have a genuine Christian faith. Mariana Oct 2019 #73

Yeah! Putting babies in cages is part of the Christian faith. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #74

And they would have the same attitude about abortion. trotsky Oct 2019 #75

"they" ,,, "Both of you" - But you don't include yourself? keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #76

No, because I'm not a Christian. n/t trotsky Oct 2019 #78

Irrelevant. You're making judgement of who might be a "sincere" Christian. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #79

He is saying both of you are "sincere" Christians edhopper Oct 2019 #80

"Faith doesn't require anything but belief." keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #83

He/she practices what they believe edhopper Oct 2019 #84

Good one! keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #85

"The Bible is a menu of options and so is Christianity." Mariana Oct 2019 #86

Oftentimes the method of religion is more important than the God of religion. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #87

No, that's you making the judgment. trotsky Oct 2019 #81

Of course I do. We are both doing it. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #82

No, we "both" aren't doing it. trotsky Oct 2019 #94

Please continue. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #96

OK trotsky Oct 2019 #97

I've been watching you dig your hole and it just keeps getting deeper Major Nikon Oct 2019 #101

"is one as far as I'm concerned" keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #107

Oh I see your confusion now. trotsky Oct 2019 #110

No confusion - "is one as far as I'm concerned" is your judgement. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #112

Right, got it. trotsky Oct 2019 #114

There's nothing magical about Christianity Mariana Oct 2019 #111

Yep keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #113

Then you admit the right wing Christians are still Christians? trotsky Oct 2019 #115

You say you are leaving but you cannot keep your word. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #116

Can't resist when I see you blatantly contradict yourself. trotsky Oct 2019 #117

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #118

Changing one's mind isn't lying. Mariana Oct 2019 #119

Maybe he's not a "sincere" Christian? trotsky Oct 2019 #120

Looks like a jury already did that. Mariana Oct 2019 #121

The US prisons are FULL of Christians...like 98% AZ8theist Oct 2019 #126

Please stop typing things twice. It isn't necessary. Mariana Oct 2019 #92

And yet beating and/or executing disobedient children is Major Nikon Oct 2019 #102

Good one! keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #106

Believe it or not, most every Christian will explain it to you whether or not you ask Major Nikon Oct 2019 #109

Thanks Trump. The hypocrisy of many "Christian" leaders has been exposed Freethinker65 Oct 2019 #10

This trend has been going on long before Trump was put in office. Mariana Oct 2019 #35

Trump devout Christian - practice Christianity keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #59

Even in Kentucky... phandancer917 Oct 2019 #11

And now we have a U.S. Attorney General Barr who ignores (?) the separation of church and state. usaf-vet Oct 2019 #13

these people are the reason why christianity is falling apart. EricaGriswoldAuthor Oct 2019 #17

Yes, plenty of Christians don't like it. Mariana Oct 2019 #36

Religious fundamentalism is nothing new. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #67

baptists are loosing members too. EricaGriswoldAuthor Oct 2019 #68

OK Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #69

They are, but not at the same rate Major Nikon Oct 2019 #104

TOTALLY RIGHT! They are the movement that drove my otherwise dedicate parents away from church. usaf-vet Oct 2019 #70

Barr believes his religion is being attacked when he is not permitted to impose it others Martin Eden Oct 2019 #31

Separation keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #60

Hart was a rwnj Cartoonist Oct 2019 #122

If the trends continue at their last 10 year pace..... paleotn Oct 2019 #15

Good pamdb Oct 2019 #18

This isn't even vaguely accurate amcgrath Oct 2019 #20

They are Christians whether you like it or not. trotsky Oct 2019 #23

I rarely hear two sentences from them without mentioning Jesus Major Nikon Oct 2019 #91

And the best part and ironic thing about this whole analysis and trend...they brought it all on ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #26

Well, there is also the nature of reality which suggests that supernatural shit ... is bullshit ... mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #28

I don't know many atheists citing Bill Barr as a significant reason for their lack of faith. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #37

They have been worshiping the Golden Calf ThoughtCriminal Oct 2019 #39

The Golden Calf was a lie the Hebrews told themselves to feel better about a shitty situation. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #46

Except Pastafarianism SCantiGOP Oct 2019 #54

Ramen! Newest Reality Oct 2019 #77

"what kind of church Satan would set up" keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #93

I'm happy for them I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2019 #40

One of the great Christian writers of the 20th century, Thomas Merton, wrote Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #48

Disinviting madamesilverspurs Oct 2019 #51

...as it should. (n/t) Iggo Oct 2019 #71