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ramen

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33. Calling religions cults is unhelpful to Democrats.

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 06:37 PM

Jan 2020

It plays right into the hands "religious right" (an insane term, those folks are religious only when that is convenient to their idiotic bullshit) when they accuse us of being amoral/godless/whatever slur.

There are innumerable religious people on our ideological side. Moderate Jews, progressive Christians, Muslims who think maybe the repression of women is not right but don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.. we gain nothing by alienating these people and accusing them of being cultists, but boy do we lose plenty.

Source note: I am an atheist but am employed in Christian settings for some of my work.

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The Amish Keep to Themselves. And They're Hiding a Horrifying Secret [View all] Newest Reality Jan 2020 OP

Not suprising edhopper Jan 2020 #1

Exactly. 2naSalit Jan 2020 #2

Putting them all... Newest Reality Jan 2020 #5

All religion's are cults Cartoonist Jan 2020 #10

Yes, I know. Newest Reality Jan 2020 #12

A simple definition Cartoonist Jan 2020 #57

Calling religions cults is unhelpful to Democrats. ramen Jan 2020 #33

I call it like I see it Cartoonist Jan 2020 #55

Duly noted. ramen Jan 2020 #64

Pretty sure the average voter isn't reading the DU religion group. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #68

Is the implication that the omly people espousing the religions-are-cults line are ramen Jan 2020 #72

And the counter implication, that only liberals feel this way? AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #74

Anecdotally, ramen Jan 2020 #77

What criticism of religion will you allow? trotsky Jan 2020 #75

I can't allow or disallow any speech, and am not interested in doing so. ramen Jan 2020 #78

There are lots of pro-2A Democrats. trotsky Jan 2020 #79

I am not. The damage done by those Democrats is far too great to bear. ramen Jan 2020 #80

Yeah, the point is, Democrats disagree on many things. trotsky Jan 2020 #81

With all due respect. mountain grammy Jan 2020 #34

My claim does not 2naSalit Jan 2020 #46

"You can find perv networks in every religion." wnylib Jan 2020 #61

Agreed. I don't understand the ideology. ramen Jan 2020 #73

A reasoned, rational reply. wryter2000 Jan 2020 #76

nailed it!! demigoddess Jan 2020 #18

Not surprised by this. MuseRider Jan 2020 #3

Agreed Bayard Jan 2020 #41

The animal abuse hurts me the most... Duppers Jan 2020 #62

My opinion is this is bullshit. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #4

Thank You! Newest Reality Jan 2020 #7

As they say, "Bad news sells papers." CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #36

Apparently you never heard of Johnny Mullet doc03 Jan 2020 #8

That's like saying Epstein wildheart Jan 2020 #11

I agree that are not all bad and they have problems same as us. nt doc03 Jan 2020 #22

I am willing to bet you my left nut that Epstein-like creatures are over-represented in the white 1% AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #69

Lots of English have done the same. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #25

I am only a lurker, for years wildheart Jan 2020 #9

Thank you! Newest Reality Jan 2020 #16

You should post more! Thanks. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #26

"not been around the Amish that I am around" This is literally an anecdote that tells us nothing. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #70

Do you think they would tell you if they were raping their daughters? Major Nikon Jan 2020 #19

Do pedophile priests tell you? LakeArenal Jan 2020 #27

No, they don't and yet there is definitely a culture of child rape within the RCC Major Nikon Jan 2020 #44

The Amish are not FLDS LakeArenal Jan 2020 #49

And yet they share commonality in the way I described Major Nikon Jan 2020 #52

I touched on that in another reply wildheart Jan 2020 #29

My friends do love a good yard sale!!🙂 LakeArenal Jan 2020 #50

I always drive..haha wildheart Jan 2020 #56

My friends own a farm but Rosanna owns a greenhouse LakeArenal Jan 2020 #58

So is that your default position, to assume wnylib Jan 2020 #38

Strawman much? Major Nikon Jan 2020 #45

OK. So I misread your post. Seems your argument wnylib Jan 2020 #53

We may never know the extent until someone does a comprehensive investigation Major Nikon Jan 2020 #54

Well, reading the article, you have failed to paraphrase it usefully. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #71

There are a lot of Amish around north east Indiana which is not far from me. blueinredohio Jan 2020 #42

Thank you for this, MuseRider Jan 2020 #47

It is a religious community Buzz cook Jan 2020 #6

Bad things happen wildheart Jan 2020 #13

True Major Nikon Jan 2020 #20

Nonsense. Abusive people in general wnylib Jan 2020 #43

You are pointing out what is the same while ignoring what's different Major Nikon Jan 2020 #48

I have to disagree with you about your wnylib Jan 2020 #60

Nonsense Major Nikon Jan 2020 #65

Yep, and so often they hide behind their pious religion often feeling above all others, RKP5637 Jan 2020 #15

The Amish do not try to convert wildheart Jan 2020 #24

Good point, yes, I think that is quite true! I was painting with too broad a brush! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2020 #66

How go you know these things? LakeArenal Jan 2020 #28

Yes wildheart Jan 2020 #39

Good point, yes, I think that is quite true! I was painting with too broad a brush! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2020 #67

What is your standard? Newest Reality Jan 2020 #21

Insular, self refrencing and reenforcing. Buzz cook Jan 2020 #63

I'm just not surprised at all! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2020 #14

I thought MFM008 Jan 2020 #17

Most Catholic Priests are nice men edhopper Jan 2020 #23

It is a closed community that puts women in a position of being subservient to men in most cases. AJT Jan 2020 #30

My local amish community is evolving wildheart Jan 2020 #37

That's good to hear. AJT Jan 2020 #40

I'm not surprised. I suspect all highly patriarchal religious groups. Doesn't bode well. Karadeniz Jan 2020 #31

OMG!!! mfcorey1 Jan 2020 #32

Isolating and subordinating women encourages and protects their abusers. SunSeeker Jan 2020 #35

Thier strawberry jam evertonfc Jan 2020 #51

Mmmmm LakeArenal Jan 2020 #59

Shout out to my Amish neighbors wildheart Mar 2020 #82