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AtheistCrusader

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71. Well, reading the article, you have failed to paraphrase it usefully.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jan 2020
In my reporting, I identified 52 official cases of Amish child sexual assault in seven states over the past two decades. Chillingly, this number doesn’t begin to capture the full picture. Virtually every Amish victim I spoke to—mostly women but also several men—told me they were dissuaded by their family or church leaders from reporting their abuse to police or had been conditioned not to seek outside help (as Sadie put it, she knew she’d just be “mocked or blamed”). Some victims said they were intimidated and threatened with excommunication. Their stories describe a widespread, decentralized cover-up of child sexual abuse by Amish clergy.
“We’re told that it’s not Christlike to report,” explains Esther*, an Amish woman who says she was abused by her brother and a neighbor boy at age 9. “It’s so ingrained. There are so many people who go to church and just endure.”


Once upon an earlier part of my own living lifetime, Catholic sex abuse was just a rumor, until it started getting reported on, and studied, and then finally, prosecuted.

The article in the OP is how this started with a different religious group;

United States[edit]
Main article: Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States
The United States has been the focus of many scandals and subsequent reforms.[62] BishopAccountability.org, an "online archive established by lay Catholics," have reported over 3,000 civil lawsuits against the church,[63] some of these cases have resulted in multimillion-dollar settlements with many claimants, totaling more than $3 billion in 2012.[57][63]
In 2004, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange settled nearly 90 cases for $100 million.[64] In July 2007, it's parent archdiocese, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles reached a settlement of 45 lawsuits for $60 million. By July 2007, [65][66] a $660 million agreement was made with more than 500 alleged victims, in December 2006, the archdiocese
In September 2007 the Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego reached a $198.1 million "agreement with 144 childhood sexual abuse victims."[67]
In 1998 the Roman Catholic Diocese of Dallas paid $30.9 million to twelve victims of one priest ($48.5 million in present-day terms).[68][69] From 2003 to 2009 nine other major settlements, involving over 375 cases with 1551 claimants/victims, resulted in payments of over US$1.1 billion.[note 2] The Associated Press estimated the settlements of sex abuse cases from 1950 to 2007 totaled more than $2 billion.[65] BishopAccountability puts the figure at Addressing "a flood of abuse claims" five dioceses (Tucson, Arizona; Spokane, Washington; Portland, Oregon; Davenport, Iowa, and San Diego) got bankruptcy protection.[65] Eight Catholic dioceses have declared bankruptcy due to sex abuse cases from 2004 to 2011.[70]
Although bishops had been sending sexually abusive priests to facilities such as those operated by the Servants of the Paraclete since the 1950s, there was scant public discussion of the problem until the mid-1960s. Even then, most of the discussion was held amongst the Catholic hierarchy with little or no coverage in the media. A public discussion of sexual abuse of minors by priests took place at a meeting sponsored by the National Association for Pastoral Renewal held on the campus of the University of Notre Dame in 1967, to which all U.S. Catholic bishops were invited.[citation needed]
Various local and regional discussions of the problem were held by Catholic bishops in later years. However, it was not until the 1980s that discussion of sexual abuse by Roman Catholic clerics began to be covered as a phenomenon in the news media of the United States. According to the Catholic News Service, public awareness of the sexual abuse of children in the United States and Canada emerged in the late 1970s and the 1980s as an outgrowth of the growing awareness of physical abuse of children in society.[citation needed]
In September 1983, the National Catholic Reporter published an article on the topic.[71] The subject gained wider national notoriety in October 1985 when Louisiana priest Gilbert Gauthe pleaded guilty to 11 counts of molestation of boys.[72] After the coverage of Gauthe's crimes subsided, the issue faded to the fringes of public attention until the mid-1990s, when the issue was again brought to national attention after a number of books on the topic were published.[73]
In 2002, the Boston Globe's Pulitzer Prize-winning coverage of sexual abuse cases involving Catholic priests drew the attention, first of the United States and ultimately the world, to the problem.[74][75][76] Other victims began to come forward with their own allegations of abuse, resulting in more lawsuits and criminal cases.[9] Since then, the problem of clerical abuse of minors has received significantly more attention from the Church hierarchy, law enforcement agencies, government and the news media. One study shows that the Boston Globe coverage of the cases "had a negative and long-lasting effect" on Catholic school enrollment, and explained "about two-thirds of the decline in Catholic schooling."[77]
In 2003 Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Milwaukee authorized payments of as much as US$20,000 to sexually abusive priests to convince them to leave the priesthood.[78]
As recently as 2011 Fr Curtis Wehmeyer was allowed to work as a priest in Minnesota despite many people having reported concern about his sexual compulsion and suspicious behavior with boys. Wehmeyer was employed as a priest without proper background checks. Wehmeyer was later convicted of sexually abusing two boys. After Wehmeyer's arrest there were complaints the responsible clergy were more concerned with how to spin the story in a favorable light than in helping victims.[79]
In July 2018, Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. resigned from the College of Cardinals (the first Cardinal to do so since 1927) following allegations of abuse and attempted homosexual rape at a seaside villa.[80][81] In August, a "systematic coverup" of sex abuse by more than 300 priests in Pennsylvania parishes was revealed.[82][83] Reviewers of the situation indicated that many more victims and perpetrators were likely undiscovered.[83]
In March 2018, Archbishop Anthony Apuron of Guam was removed from office by the Vatican.[84] Apuron had been accused of sexually molesting altar boys in the late 1970s. Moreover, in the latest case, priest Louis Brouillard was charged for having raped altar boys during "sleepovers" as a teenager. Over fifteen priests, two archbishops, and a bishop have been recognized in sex abuse cases, from the 1950s until the 1990s.

Jay Report[edit]
In the United States the 2004 John Jay Report, commissioned from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice and funded by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), was based on volunteer surveys completed by the Roman Catholic dioceses in the United States. The 2004 John Jay Report was based on a study of 10,667 allegations against 4,392 priests accused of engaging in sexual abuse of a minor between 1950 and 2002.[85]
Withholding names of accused clergy[edit]
On December 29 2019, it was revealed that numerous Bishops across the United States withheld hundreds of names from their accused clergy list.[86][87][88]
Not suprising edhopper Jan 2020 #1
Exactly. 2naSalit Jan 2020 #2
Putting them all... Newest Reality Jan 2020 #5
All religion's are cults Cartoonist Jan 2020 #10
Yes, I know. Newest Reality Jan 2020 #12
A simple definition Cartoonist Jan 2020 #57
Calling religions cults is unhelpful to Democrats. ramen Jan 2020 #33
I call it like I see it Cartoonist Jan 2020 #55
Duly noted. ramen Jan 2020 #64
Pretty sure the average voter isn't reading the DU religion group. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #68
Is the implication that the omly people espousing the religions-are-cults line are ramen Jan 2020 #72
And the counter implication, that only liberals feel this way? AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #74
Anecdotally, ramen Jan 2020 #77
What criticism of religion will you allow? trotsky Jan 2020 #75
I can't allow or disallow any speech, and am not interested in doing so. ramen Jan 2020 #78
There are lots of pro-2A Democrats. trotsky Jan 2020 #79
I am not. The damage done by those Democrats is far too great to bear. ramen Jan 2020 #80
Yeah, the point is, Democrats disagree on many things. trotsky Jan 2020 #81
With all due respect. mountain grammy Jan 2020 #34
My claim does not 2naSalit Jan 2020 #46
"You can find perv networks in every religion." wnylib Jan 2020 #61
Agreed. I don't understand the ideology. ramen Jan 2020 #73
A reasoned, rational reply. wryter2000 Jan 2020 #76
nailed it!! demigoddess Jan 2020 #18
Not surprised by this. MuseRider Jan 2020 #3
Agreed Bayard Jan 2020 #41
The animal abuse hurts me the most... Duppers Jan 2020 #62
My opinion is this is bullshit. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #4
Thank You! Newest Reality Jan 2020 #7
As they say, "Bad news sells papers." CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #36
Apparently you never heard of Johnny Mullet doc03 Jan 2020 #8
That's like saying Epstein wildheart Jan 2020 #11
I agree that are not all bad and they have problems same as us. nt doc03 Jan 2020 #22
I am willing to bet you my left nut that Epstein-like creatures are over-represented in the white 1% AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #69
Lots of English have done the same. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #25
I am only a lurker, for years wildheart Jan 2020 #9
Thank you! Newest Reality Jan 2020 #16
You should post more! Thanks. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #26
"not been around the Amish that I am around" This is literally an anecdote that tells us nothing. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #70
Do you think they would tell you if they were raping their daughters? Major Nikon Jan 2020 #19
Do pedophile priests tell you? LakeArenal Jan 2020 #27
No, they don't and yet there is definitely a culture of child rape within the RCC Major Nikon Jan 2020 #44
The Amish are not FLDS LakeArenal Jan 2020 #49
And yet they share commonality in the way I described Major Nikon Jan 2020 #52
I touched on that in another reply wildheart Jan 2020 #29
My friends do love a good yard sale!!🙂 LakeArenal Jan 2020 #50
I always drive..haha wildheart Jan 2020 #56
My friends own a farm but Rosanna owns a greenhouse LakeArenal Jan 2020 #58
So is that your default position, to assume wnylib Jan 2020 #38
Strawman much? Major Nikon Jan 2020 #45
OK. So I misread your post. Seems your argument wnylib Jan 2020 #53
We may never know the extent until someone does a comprehensive investigation Major Nikon Jan 2020 #54
Well, reading the article, you have failed to paraphrase it usefully. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #71
There are a lot of Amish around north east Indiana which is not far from me. blueinredohio Jan 2020 #42
Thank you for this, MuseRider Jan 2020 #47
It is a religious community Buzz cook Jan 2020 #6
Bad things happen wildheart Jan 2020 #13
True Major Nikon Jan 2020 #20
Nonsense. Abusive people in general wnylib Jan 2020 #43
You are pointing out what is the same while ignoring what's different Major Nikon Jan 2020 #48
I have to disagree with you about your wnylib Jan 2020 #60
Nonsense Major Nikon Jan 2020 #65
Yep, and so often they hide behind their pious religion often feeling above all others, RKP5637 Jan 2020 #15
The Amish do not try to convert wildheart Jan 2020 #24
Good point, yes, I think that is quite true! I was painting with too broad a brush! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2020 #66
How go you know these things? LakeArenal Jan 2020 #28
Yes wildheart Jan 2020 #39
Good point, yes, I think that is quite true! I was painting with too broad a brush! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2020 #67
What is your standard? Newest Reality Jan 2020 #21
Insular, self refrencing and reenforcing. Buzz cook Jan 2020 #63
I'm just not surprised at all! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2020 #14
I thought MFM008 Jan 2020 #17
Most Catholic Priests are nice men edhopper Jan 2020 #23
It is a closed community that puts women in a position of being subservient to men in most cases. AJT Jan 2020 #30
My local amish community is evolving wildheart Jan 2020 #37
That's good to hear. AJT Jan 2020 #40
I'm not surprised. I suspect all highly patriarchal religious groups. Doesn't bode well. Karadeniz Jan 2020 #31
OMG!!! mfcorey1 Jan 2020 #32
Isolating and subordinating women encourages and protects their abusers. SunSeeker Jan 2020 #35
Thier strawberry jam evertonfc Jan 2020 #51
Mmmmm LakeArenal Jan 2020 #59
Shout out to my Amish neighbors wildheart Mar 2020 #82
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