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muriel_volestrangler

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45. A huge part of religion is about signalling you belong to a group - often the majority in the area
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 05:58 AM
Jun 2021

That can be benign - solidarity with your neighbours - or excluding "Others" ("how can you be in, if there is no outside?", in the words of Peter Gabriel).

Most people stay in the religion their parents brought them up in. The rituals - baptism (or its equivalent), marriage and burial - signal belonging to the group, and its role in deciding how the group continues to define who is in it. People identify with the religion, and mix in their identification with other groups. When the religion is in the majority, it becomes intertwined with the official power of the state or community, either formally, or informally. This allows racism, misogyny, and other bigotry to become religious orthodoxy.

When people do change sect in a significant way, or join an entirely new religion, it's also signalling their allegiance to a new group - either conforming with the most influential in the area, or rebelling against it.

When the idea of which group they want to be seen in has been sorted, then the matter of following the defined morals and aims of the religion can be addressed - if they find there's room. If not, membership will take priority. And some rules usually offer a handy way of policing the right of others to belong to the same group.

Nationalism offers the same opportunity to be "in" a dominant group, and to police membership, and often combines with religion.

Religiosity [View all] walkingman Jun 2021 OP
"The Church" in various respects has been courted and used by those in power to control people.... TigressDem Jun 2021 #1
From what I have seen I have seen it is indeed about control and that seems walkingman Jun 2021 #13
To me, a true Christian is there to work on their own stuff. TigressDem Jun 2021 #37
Very thoughtful. If more people thought and lived like that I might have walkingman Jun 2021 #39
A lot of DEM Christians DO live that way. TigressDem Jun 2021 #41
Thanks DU for hearing me out. Nt TigressDem Jun 2021 #42
Amen ItsjustMe Jun 2021 #2
FREEDOM of Worship IS part of the American Identity. TigressDem Jun 2021 #9
You have no Idea who posted what ItsjustMe Jun 2021 #10
Then it seems I misunderstood your point. TigressDem Jun 2021 #25
Welcome to my ItsjustMe Jun 2021 #30
So I reach out to understand you better... TigressDem Jun 2021 #36
Then it seems I misunderstood your point. TigressDem Jun 2021 #26
I would welcome a "Freedom from Religion" movement because what we have now walkingman Jun 2021 #14
I get how it seems that way. TigressDem Jun 2021 #27
So should we assume that you're "post removed?" ms liberty Jun 2021 #23
Was that directed at me ? TigressDem Jun 2021 #28
No it was to the OP...sorry! I'm on my phone too, lol. n/t ms liberty Jun 2021 #33
Their religion is the one they made up to suit themselves. LakeArenal Jun 2021 #3
True, however, He did ask people to come together in His memory. TigressDem Jun 2021 #8
Christianity is not the really the topic. LakeArenal Jun 2021 #11
Not so sure that it is just the current brand of evangelicalism. I think racism is at the root walkingman Jun 2021 #15
Maybe. LakeArenal Jun 2021 #17
Religion to me is more like a map. TigressDem Jun 2021 #29
The question seems to me, HOW do they go to church.. TigressDem Jun 2021 #24
My folks sent me to Summer Bible School from ages 8-13 LakeArenal Jun 2021 #32
I am more about walking the walk than talking about it. TigressDem Jun 2021 #35
if one believes that a white GODman sits on a throne in the sky... Layzeebeaver Jun 2021 #4
To quote someone.. padfun Jun 2021 #5
AND... My version of a response to that TigressDem Jun 2021 #7
The simplest answer is we are all "sinners" who are attracted to "the church" and make mistakes. TigressDem Jun 2021 #6
I think it audacious to say all people are sinners. LakeArenal Jun 2021 #12
One man's sin is another man's virtue. I think using the analogy that all people are walkingman Jun 2021 #16
Especially if you can be a vicious lecherous fat sack ... LakeArenal Jun 2021 #18
I cannot see how any woman could possibly embrace a religion that walkingman Jun 2021 #19
🤷🏼‍♀️ Yeah. Although I am glad we have freedom from religion. LakeArenal Jun 2021 #21
Having a photo op with a Bible doesn't make one a Christian. TigressDem Jun 2021 #40
I didn't say all people are sinners. TigressDem Jun 2021 #31
Back to my original topic - what about right-wing politics is attractive to Christians? walkingman Jun 2021 #20
It's NOT. That's the whitewash. TigressDem Jun 2021 #34
It's been a love affair ever since the GOP put... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #22
Not ALL Christians buy the BS TigressDem Jun 2021 #38
Of course not. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #43
This reflects my feeling about religion in so many ways. As I said earlier....why... walkingman Jun 2021 #44
A huge part of religion is about signalling you belong to a group - often the majority in the area muriel_volestrangler Jun 2021 #45
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