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old as dirt

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30. THIS
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 06:38 PM
Dec 2021

Last edited Sat Jan 1, 2022, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)

People are killed for money, power. greed and all sorts of things that have zilch to do with religion..Just sayin'.



One of the first stories that my wife told me about her religion (Roman Catholic) when I first met her was about how her ancestors ran away some 500 years ago.

They were called "cimarrones", and were among the very first "illegals" here in América.

In the Patía valley they climbed a mountain, to the top of el cerro del Manzanillo, to see if they could see África. When they couldn't see África, they played their drums and cried.

Whenever their descendants were sad, like their ancestors before them, they would also climb to the top of el cerro del Manzanillo, and look out to see if they could see África, and when they could not, they would play their drums and cry.

Over time all of those tears coalesced to form a lake.

El cerro del Manzanillo is a magical mythological and geographical place.

As it happens, my wife was born very close to it, and when she was a child more than half a century ago, there was a rumor going around Patía that la Virgen María had appeared at the top of el cerro del Manzanillo, so her and her friend climbed to the top to see if they could see Her.

Now, my wife's religion happens to be a religion of war, and her music happens to be the music of war, and her culture happens to be a culture of war. Her ancestors had their reasons.

But that doesn't mean that all religion is about war, or that all music is about war, or that all culture is about war.

That's just a stereotype.

Here's a dissertation on my wife's religion.

It mentions four songs. One of them is in english, and a couple of lines are quoted.

RELIGIOSIDAD AFROPATIANA
Funerales de Angelitos: Arrullos


https://repository.javeriana.edu.co/bitstream/handle/10554/6623/tesis149.pdf;sequence=1

From page 44:

El Palenque del El Castigo

"Stolen from Africa, brought to America,
Fighting on arrival, fighting for survival"


WTF.... [View all] pbmus Dec 2021 OP
People are being killed because of the religiosity of others. onecaliberal Dec 2021 #1
People are killed for money, power.greed whathehell Dec 2021 #3
THIS old as dirt Dec 2021 #30
OK, I couldn't resist. old as dirt Dec 2021 #31
Matthew 19:21 is so passe'. Now it is come and follow Jesus, and he will make you rich! Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #2
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as sop Dec 2021 #4
Triple BINGO.... pbmus Dec 2021 #5
Sounds perfectly good to me. Jirel Dec 2021 #6
Televangelists aren't the only grifters Major Nikon Dec 2021 #7
My God. old as dirt Dec 2021 #8
................. pbmus Dec 2021 #12
................ old as dirt Dec 2021 #14
Whatever.... pbmus Dec 2021 #15
Violencia old as dirt Dec 2021 #17
..... pbmus Dec 2021 #18
Doy el Primer Paso old as dirt Dec 2021 #29
Amazing Grace old as dirt Dec 2021 #9
See post #4.... pbmus Dec 2021 #25
This? old as dirt Dec 2021 #27
16th Street Baptist Church Bombing old as dirt Dec 2021 #10
Bojaya Church Massacre old as dirt Dec 2021 #11
The women of Bojaya old as dirt Dec 2021 #13
If you are trying to say war is senseless, you are absolutely correct pbmus Dec 2021 #16
Churches are a place of refuge. old as dirt Dec 2021 #22
Unfortunately pbmus Dec 2021 #23
Seems like a good thing to me. old as dirt Dec 2021 #28
Angry White American Man old as dirt Dec 2021 #19
Telling a true story with your song would be better than making it up... pbmus Dec 2021 #20
Anti-theism is the very anthisis of a serious atheism. (nt) old as dirt Dec 2021 #21
Moreover.... pbmus Dec 2021 #24
Thank God! old as dirt Dec 2021 #26
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