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TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
18. Some thoughts.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:00 PM
Mar 2023

I wouldn't go up to someone and say that, because I feel that being a Christian is about my own walk with Christ and keeping my own nose clean. IF someone asks, I am honest, but I've never wanted to push religion at anyone.

However, having been around many types of Christians and other faiths, atheists, pagans and such..... I have seen people get along despite their differences and people make everyone uncomfortable from any position. It all comes down to respect and a light touch.

SO WHY would someone start out nice and friendly and then offer to pray for an atheist? Don't they REALIZE how offensive it is?
(I hear you, really I do. I get it.)

Basically, they may totally accept that others have every right to believe or not believe, but let's say there is even the slightest chance that someday science could prove the existence of intelligent design and some sort of higher power that started all this chain reaction of evolution.....

Think Higgs boson and Black Holes.....

https://scitechdaily.com/science-made-simple-what-is-the-higgs-boson-god-particle/

https://www.science.org/content/article/black-hole


There was a time where there really wasn't a way to "prove" black holes existed and a time when no one even thought about them.

Higgs boson particles are way weird. Quantum physics is a slide down the rabbit hole at times.




IF Christians are right and there is some day a way to prove the existence of God, it's just a kind thought to hope everyone might feel the love that exists in people of faith for all of humanity.

They are TRYING to NOT be those a**hole Christians PUSHING anything on others, but wishing them a nice day.


I KNOW IT SEEMS ridiculous, self-righteous and INSULTING, but it's a step in the right direction of NOT JUDGING or EXPECTING a person to "convert or go to Hell".

A way to say, "I believe and I wish you the best in the only way I know how to do that and stay true to my beliefs." NOT ANY EXPECTATION OF THE OTHER PERSON CHANGING, but a kind thought toward others who don't have the same beliefs.




I once sat next to a Druid at work and he sneezed.

I said, "God bless you."

He said, "Which one?"

I said, "Take your pick, it's your blessing."

He said, "I can live with that."



There are MANY wonders to discover in this world and the universe. Who knows what the final answer will be?

We just need to make it through this life and be our best self, however that shakes out.


I think the way Jesus taught and treated people sounds like a good way to live, so he's my example and I'm good with that.

I respect that others believe differently.

It makes the world more interesting.


IF you take anything from this, simply open your mind to the possibility that they meant no disrespect, though they certainly DID act in a disrespectful manner according to any rules of engagement where someone doesn't assume a position of authority OVER others.


Sorry that it gave you that angry slimy feeling.


And I don't know those ladies.... maybe they DID mean it that way.


BUT you DO have personal power over whether you let it wreck your day or just let it slide off as really "more about them" than anything you need to worry about.


You could also simply look at them and say, "Respectfully, ladies, I am also an atheist, but please DON'T pray for me. You may not understand it, but it comes off as judgemental and I'd prefer to simply be allowed my choice and not be on your prayer list. IF you DO believe in God, then you know He gave man free will and wouldn't force Himself on anyone. You may be trying to be nice, but it just comes out offensively. Have a good day."


IF you stand up for yourself without resorting to defensiveness, you can teach them to back off in those cases and save others the discomfort you felt.


It's STILL BETTER to hear about that kind of interaction than to hear ANY THING the Christian Nationalists are spouting.


I am so glad you didn't run into anyone like that. They COMPLETELY give Christianity a bad name. Like whores spreading ghonorea in the name of love. Please.


Enjoy what's left of the night.






Effin' religion busybodies. Diamond_Dog Mar 2023 #1
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2023 #2
What was it Cheryl Wheeler said? DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #21
If it's right for religion to be promoted, it must be equally right to protest it Major Nikon Mar 2023 #3
True, but ending up on fox news in a cell phone video of Eko Mar 2023 #6
That goes right to the heart of what is so wrong about religious discourse Major Nikon Mar 2023 #60
You get it. Eko Mar 2023 #61
These days I'm more happy being captain of my own vessel Major Nikon Mar 2023 #62
'Saved? Greenstamps? They went out YEARS ago.' elleng Mar 2023 #4
I got my first guitar with Greenstamps. rubbersole Mar 2023 #24
Had that happy horseshit thrown at me once WaterSong1951 Mar 2023 #5
Religion is a protected class in the workplace. Eko Mar 2023 #8
That also includes atheism Major Nikon Mar 2023 #63
they never think barbtries Mar 2023 #7
That would be pretty fucking insulting to them. Eko Mar 2023 #12
well that's the whole thing. barbtries Mar 2023 #15
I didnt think you were being serious. Eko Mar 2023 #19
yep. that's right. barbtries Mar 2023 #20
your switch the tables thought exercise NJCher Mar 2023 #33
the idea of going door to door barbtries Mar 2023 #35
Why can't these people use Jimmy Carter as a model Thunderbeast Mar 2023 #9
Carter is awesome. Eko Mar 2023 #13
because that would require they DO something besides judge other people Skittles Mar 2023 #57
when someone pitches their religion an du didnt ask, watch out. that woman thinks msongs Mar 2023 #10
The three of you were out there smoking cigarettes? True Dough Mar 2023 #11
Another answer Desert grandma Mar 2023 #14
There's a fine line between "As my Father hath sent Me, even so send I you" and... LudwigPastorius Mar 2023 #16
When someone says they'll pray for me I say thank you. LakeArenal Mar 2023 #17
kinda' in the same lane on this stopdiggin Mar 2023 #22
Well, how do you know if it was done will ill intent or not? Eko Mar 2023 #25
I suppose its amatter of picking your battles. stopdiggin Mar 2023 #58
Some thoughts. TigressDem Mar 2023 #18
Noooooo, you dont hear me. Eko Mar 2023 #23
You are correct. We ALL can have good thoughts for others. TigressDem Mar 2023 #38
Of course I don't hate Christians for having their beliefs. Eko Mar 2023 #43
Yeah, pushy people are a pain no matter what they are trying to sell. TigressDem Mar 2023 #46
No, I didnt twist anything, I used your own words and I shall do so below. Eko Mar 2023 #48
I have had THE BEST talks with some atheists..... TigressDem Mar 2023 #53
Funny thing is.... TigressDem Mar 2023 #41
I I have no idea what you are talking about as reply #23 is you replying to me. Eko Mar 2023 #44
Ah, found it. Eko Mar 2023 #45
I think it depends on if you've ever been in mixed groups where people were still respectful. TigressDem Mar 2023 #49
No, religion is a protected class in federal law. Eko Mar 2023 #50
MAGA would have you believe that, but it isn't true. TigressDem Mar 2023 #55
I know of lot of Christians that know Athiests are devil worshippers. 100% sure. Eko Mar 2023 #51
Same ones who "know" tRUMP won, I bet. TigressDem Mar 2023 #54
the arrogance of these people is astounding Skittles Mar 2023 #26
That is not acceptable to some of them apparently lol. Eko Mar 2023 #27
that's just plain arrogance Skittles Mar 2023 #30
Nope. Eko Mar 2023 #32
Wow, 34 recs to something can be very personal and divisive. Eko Mar 2023 #28
agreed Skittles Mar 2023 #52
It is quite the affront, isn't it. ancianita Mar 2023 #29
Yup, dudes can seriously suck. Eko Mar 2023 #31
somebody once said they were praying for me NJCher Mar 2023 #34
Several years ago I was in a supermarket in Laurel, MD... SeattleVet Mar 2023 #36
I can't help wondering how they would have reacted if you'd puffed yourself up, stared them down, royable Mar 2023 #37
"None of your business" Warpy Mar 2023 #39
In reality they aren't trying to convert you they are trying to convince themselves grantcart Mar 2023 #40
There were a few proseltysers that would I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2023 #42
I had this happen to me Lifeafter70 Mar 2023 #47
A dialog with a 'believer' sanatanadharma Mar 2023 #56
I told missionaries who came to my door drmeow Mar 2023 #59
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