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kentauros

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30. Thanks for posting here, djean111
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 02:44 PM
Apr 2012

and welcome to DU!

As a friend here has said, the Religion forum is basically a shooting gallery for DU's atheists. It's not really worth posting any thread there that posits there's something positive about either religion or belief. They'll shoot it down, make it crash and burn, and then piss all over it. It's almost as if the only thing that makes them happy is the demise of any thread on religion and belief. Although mocking and belittling makes them happy, too. Bullies are like that.

As for your NDE, I think that's cool! I've only ever had OBEs and a couple of them were pretty intense, but nothing like what Ive read of NDE accounts. I don't expect you to detail it, especially if you're not comfortable doing that; it is a very personal experience. The one detail about them that I feel negates the arguments against their validity is when an NDEr experiences unconditional love.

I think I've had a taste of unconditional love in a lucid dream once (and I subsequently misinterpreted it at the time) but I know it really doesn't compare to what those in an NDE experience and feel. As I understand it, it really can't be put into words adequately. To my perception, this goes beyond mere "brainwave" or "chemical actions" of the brain and supporting organs. I just don't feel that any organ in the human body is capable of producing the chemicals to duplicate that kind of Love. And if people could experience that level of Love, then I don't think that would be a detail so many would focus on for an NDE. It would just be a mundane emotion like any other felt by a person throughout their waking life.

Salon story on NDEs [View all] kentauros Apr 2012 OP
thank you magical thyme Apr 2012 #1
I still haven't read Moody's book. kentauros Apr 2012 #2
hah! I have Embraced by the Light too. Haven't seen Linn's, though... nt magical thyme Apr 2012 #5
Yep, I saw it there and wondered how long it would take for the pissing to begin. Cleita Apr 2012 #3
You're welcome :) kentauros Apr 2012 #6
The Monroe Institute felix_numinous Apr 2012 #4
At one time I wanted to go to the Monroe Institute. kentauros Apr 2012 #7
OOOOOOOOO!!!!! Howler Apr 2012 #8
I know! kentauros Apr 2012 #11
Thanks for posting MorningGlow Apr 2012 #9
They're very good at discounting information. kentauros Apr 2012 #10
What also was interesting was that people ... Howler Apr 2012 #13
You're welcome :) kentauros Apr 2012 #15
And we thank you very kindly for doing this and Smilo Apr 2012 #18
Didn't I see your name over there? kentauros Apr 2012 #19
Ah, parsing words MorningGlow Apr 2012 #14
You don't need to. kentauros Apr 2012 #16
Oh Yeah!!! Howler Apr 2012 #12
Thanks for the info....... Smilo Apr 2012 #17
What's also interesting, as related to this, kentauros Apr 2012 #20
I found Robert Monroe's lecture on OOBs felix_numinous Apr 2012 #21
I'll have to watch those! kentauros Apr 2012 #22
Thanks so much for posting this! findrskeep Apr 2012 #23
You're welcome findrskeep! kentauros Apr 2012 #25
And now, for the "other side" of the coin, kentauros Apr 2012 #24
This subject felix_numinous Apr 2012 #26
I may know what it means, kentauros Apr 2012 #28
I am still learning about this felix_numinous Apr 2012 #29
I tried to reply in the religion thread djean111 Apr 2012 #27
Thanks for posting here, djean111 kentauros Apr 2012 #30
what was your nde? orleans Apr 2012 #31
Here's a fascinating interview related to this subject-- felix_numinous May 2012 #32
I was moved by this young woman's recounting of her NDE -- Anita Moorjani Helga Scow Stern May 2012 #33
I think Dr. Wayne Dyer wrote the book's Forward, too. kentauros May 2012 #34
OMG I just listened to this felix_numinous May 2012 #35
all the material posted here could keep me busy for days! Celebration May 2012 #36
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