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5. I'm an old man who's lived through more than 100 ppm additions of carbon dioxide. I spend much of my free...
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 11:11 PM
Nov 2023

...time in the primary scientific literature thinking about approaches to sustainability.

My ethical purview includes not depleting every damned thing on the planet for short term temporary fixes.

Even if there were meaningful geological hydrogen, if it's mined then it's not in my view "green."

In fact one of the big lies before humanity is that resource depletion, be in metals for the wind and solar scams are "green."

Mining the shit out of the planet is not "green."

Even the fossil fuel salespeople and salesbots who work to rebrand dangerous natural gas and dangerous coal as "hydrogen," don't call this mined hydrogen - to the extent it exists - "green."

The stupid color scheme that's been attached to this unsustainable filthy hydrogen scam, calls putative mined hydrogen "white hydrogen."

Who gives a shit? Half a century of hydrogen bullshit has not made it into a source of primary energy, and efforts to make it into a consumer fuel are dangerous, although it is extremely unlikely that it will happen. The technical issues are too onerous.

All this idiot talk has left the planet in flames.

There is nothing to stop people, including scientists - a class of people to which I belong - from chasing stupid chimeras. We are human beings. I however, am the sort of human being who has some regard for future generations. I oppose unnecessary mining, and as far as energy goes, I oppose bait and switch tactics, including those utilized by fossil fuel salespeople and salesbots here and elsewhere rebranding this fuel, overwhelmingly produced by steam reforming of dangerous fossil fuels, as "green."

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