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In reply to the discussion: Atheist Mom Forced Into Court-Ordered Christian Counseling [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)97. Agreed.
If this was a Christian mom who was forced to listen to Muslim prayers and get counseled about how they believed in the wrong god the msm and right wing politicians would be all over this.
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beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
OP
I don't believe a challenge to counseling at AA has made it to SCOTUS yet.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#3
AA says your higher power can be a toilet seat, but you have to accept there is a "higher power"
peacebird
Sep 2015
#43
I agree totally with you, that said, the 'excuse' I have heard from AAers is youndon't have to
peacebird
Sep 2015
#52
"there were folks who are obviously addicted to going to these meetings"
awoke_in_2003
Sep 2015
#142
Many AA members are heavy smokers. Having to go outside in most meeting venues
maddiemom
Sep 2015
#127
What is objectionable about AA/NA is the endless proselytization about a prayer-answering
progree
Sep 2015
#55
"6 out of 6 of the highest courts...have found A.A. to be religious in nature"
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#61
That's it! Real persecution as opposed to the fake crap the Kentucky clerk claims.
Dustlawyer
Sep 2015
#23
Needs to be widespread ideology supported by national and local government with accompanying law
Auggie
Sep 2015
#98
I worked for one who made me send printed bible verses with the customers' invoices.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#20
I got Lasik from a doctor who prayed before he started lasering my eyeball.
Arugula Latte
Sep 2015
#95
And yet, there are some on DU who think Atheists face little to no persecution...
LostOne4Ever
Sep 2015
#33
Typically, you don't need "counseling" if you're an atheist. They aren't the troubled ones. n/t
jtuck004
Sep 2015
#41
True, but it makes it much easier to spot a real one whn you see one. nt
raouldukelives
Sep 2015
#56
Yes, like A.A. -- all 6 of the highest courts have found it to be religious, for quite obvious
progree
Sep 2015
#60
Good point about being a user of Cannabis and a follower of the Church of C.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#72
You're telling me what this woman "should have done" based on what you don't know?
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#103
The Report stated the Judge took away the Children, that could only be be in contempt
happyslug
Sep 2015
#108
So you're just speculating that she was a bitter ex and used this as an excuse to get out of it.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#109
An ACLU case would not be a child custody case, it would be a violation of her civil liberties
Dont call me Shirley
Sep 2015
#163
I worked in the court system in my state for several years, and that's not at all how it worked
EvolveOrConvolve
Sep 2015
#178
I suspect what you are describing is true of some judges and some jurisdictions
progree
Sep 2015
#83
Your experience doesn't count for jack when you use it to blame the mother without evidence.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#94
Do you have a problem with an atheist being forced to write an essay titled "Who is God to me?"
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#107
It she refused to comply she would have lost her kids, she was forced to write it.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#111
I pity your clients if you base your judgment on the suspicion that women are liars.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#151
Wow, you have said that she "selected" this counselor at least ten times,
Curmudgeoness
Sep 2015
#121
a fictional character invented by primitive pre-scientific people to explain things like lightning
progree
Sep 2015
#112
Number one - A.A. facilitates coerced attendance. Two: Most courts in Minnesota do
progree
Sep 2015
#140
It was part of her plan to... to ... what was it she wanted to do again?
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#137
If you break the law, be prepared to take the consequences, and that includes Court Orders...
happyslug
Sep 2015
#139
How do you know she had the option and chose to disobey the order instead?
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#145
If you break the law be prepared to pay the consequences. Agree so far. But you don't have to like
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#168
And that includes the judge. The judge broke the law by forcing an atheist to pray.
jeff47
Sep 2015
#171
Just imagine the kind of counseling she did when she worked for that radical anti-choice group.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#90
This story disgusts me. The total disregard of separation of church and state by the courts
valerief
Sep 2015
#86