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muriel_volestrangler

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22. You said you were loving this; don't throw a tantrum, when you're tiring of your lesson
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:52 AM
Nov 2015

The article is not about evolution; it doesn't mention it. It's about science; it mentions, in passing, the interpretation of hominid fossils, and the proliferation of hominid species - "all those near-men and proto-men and half-apes" - that the interpretation shows, and which we non-specialists are unable to do ourselves, and for which the results are not agreed among the experts.

AlbertCat misinterpreted that; he said "the genome proves evolution happens even if we had never found a single fossil". But it wasn't about how any existing species has evolved, which is what genome analyses show; it's about the proliferation of hominid species. The article never disputed that evolution happens.

It doesn't dispute that science works, either, or that there are objective truths to be found using it. What it does say is that social interactions between scientists can affect the way and speed that results are arrived at, and gives the examples from the books under review. You seem to think you can show that the disputes between, say, Einstein and Bohr, don't have any effect, and that the history of science is always simple. Meh. Historians of science disagree with you, and they give their reasons; you don't. You're throwing your toys out of your pram because you want a simple story.

What a twit skepticscott Nov 2015 #1
That's not what his point is. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #2
Saying that it's "complicated" skepticscott Nov 2015 #4
This^ AlbertCat Nov 2015 #5
"A few blackened Serengei mandibles"?? AlbertCat Nov 2015 #6
But he didn't mention evolution at all muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #7
Please tell me you're being sarcastic skepticscott Nov 2015 #8
I'm perfectly serious, because I read the thing, and didn't have a kneejerk muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #9
The "proliferation of hominids" skepticscott Nov 2015 #10
No, the proliferation of hominids is not evolution muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #11
"But it is a special kind of social activity, one where lots of different human traits— AlbertCat Nov 2015 #14
Who said it was 'news'? It's a book review in the New Yorker muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #15
It's a book review in the New Yorker AlbertCat Nov 2015 #17
And you call me 'obtuse'. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #18
I pointed it out because skepticscott had said muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #19
The authors pretends that bullshit, strawman arguments are somehow legitimate skepticscott Nov 2015 #21
Yes, you are being deliberately obtuse skepticscott Nov 2015 #20
You said you were loving this; don't throw a tantrum, when you're tiring of your lesson muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #22
You still can't grasp the difference between talking about evolution skepticscott Nov 2015 #23
Your simple point was wrong. muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #24
The dispute between Bohr and Einstein skepticscott Nov 2015 #25
OK: muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #26
No, obviously he isn't referring to evolution, because he doesn't talk about it. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #12
And the dividing line between species, AlbertCat Nov 2015 #13
And that's the point; you can't work out that dividing line from fossils muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #16
An interesting bit of philosophistry Yorktown Nov 2015 #3
Well...Science is hardly just a "social activity" Duppers Dec 2015 #27
The scientific method can be derived from statistics. Religious belief violates statistics. DetlefK Dec 2015 #28
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