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Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
85. Good idea, Warren. I'm glad this got kicked for this year.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:39 PM
Feb 2016

The intellectual dishonesty of some of those people is stunning. But not surprising. Logic and reason do not easily, if ever, penetrate their skulls. You can't even pin them down about their beliefs they are so busy defending. They actually say "You can believe anything you want and be a Christian." That is utter bullshit and we all know it.

I say this as a secular humanist, Unitarian-Universalist identifying person reading lots of Buddhism for years and years. Raised as a casual Presbyterian, which was basically a social club for liberal, educated people. I am so glad that nobody threatened me with hell, or acted like literalist fundies, when I was growing up in one of the most educated types of Protestantism. I liked to sing in the choir and went to Sunday School to try to get dates with cute guys. Didn't work very well. I didn't really ask questions, I just used it as a social club.

It was in my senior year of college (1979) that I discovered UUs and found out where I belonged. I belonged in a church that accepted everybody, for real, and was full of atheists, agnostics, and questioners who liked to get together on Sunday morning without having to hear the destructive message and mass delusion of Christianity.

I attended and graduated from a small, prestigious Presbyterian college with a damn good liberal arts education, which included a couple of amazing religion courses. Courses that opened my mind tremendously because they were about sociology and anthropology of religion, not about doctrine or brainwashing the students in the proper denomination.

The professor, who I have mentioned many times before as a truly wonderful professor, is a Princeton Seminary graduate who is an expert at ancient languages, not to mention Latin and Greek. So he knows his history. The religion department at the school I went to no longer requires all students to take 6 hours of religion, but they do have a Division of Asian Studies now.

The only one of the Abrahamic religions I have any tolerance for is Reform Judaism, because they seem to be a lot more sensible and reality oriented than the others. And some cool cultural traditions, like being well educated and accomplishing a lot. It's okay to be a Jew and get angry and shake your fist at god, and even make a comedy routine out of it. And it's okay to not be a Jew that is attending shul regularly, but still treasure the cultural traditions. Twice I tried to convert to Reform and got rejected because the rich doctors on the board of trustees didn't like that I wasn't employed. I volunteered to do work around the shul for no pay. And it never occurred to the board that one of them might have given me a job. The rabbi was cool, but I knew I wasn't wanted there because of the snobby board, so I stopped going.

I used to enjoy going to a Mahayana Buddhist temple in the big city and listening to the monks and nuns giving lessons to the English speaking group.

I gave up rug for lent. [View all] Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 OP
I gave up lent. In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Mar 2014 #2
That's not completely accurate skepticscott Mar 2014 #5
I am temporarily locking this Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #3
Unlocking this thread Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Mar 2014 #6
It was a 3-0 host vote Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #7
And rug can't even respond about this with his own opinion. AlbertCat Mar 2014 #8
I think when you've been wasting hours of your precious time Warpy Mar 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Mar 2014 #10
You should probably hash this out in your Interfaith group Heddi Mar 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Mar 2014 #12
Well you did, and I am just befuddled as to how you can think Heddi Mar 2014 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Mar 2014 #14
Uh, I think I'm safe in saying we all did. Warpy Mar 2014 #15
"Cut the Gomer Pyle cutesy bullshit. " cleanhippie Mar 2014 #46
You were told why that rule was excepted in this case skepticscott Mar 2014 #16
i'm a bit confused about what exactly I said about rug that has you so upset. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Mar 2014 #19
I give up. This is simpler: I said nothing mean about rug. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Mar 2014 #21
I know you mean well Lordquinton Mar 2014 #22
Triggering. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #42
I didn't specify Lordquinton Mar 2014 #45
As much as I have come to agree defacto7 Mar 2014 #23
Heheheh... Iggo Mar 2014 #17
Personally I would have waited until it's a bit warmer Fumesucker Mar 2014 #24
I cling tightly to my afghan blankets. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #36
People with agendas who aren't A&A. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2014 #25
I like Rug. ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #26
I like Rug too LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #29
Yuk amuse bouche Mar 2014 #51
Just FYI for everyone skepticscott Mar 2014 #27
Best. OP. Ever. nt mr blur Mar 2014 #28
Totally agree (nt) LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #30
I see he has erased his messages in this thread. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #31
Well, in fairness skepticscott Mar 2014 #32
yeah I just noticed that too. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #33
It has come in very handy for me a time or two Warpy Mar 2014 #37
That's pretty fucking low. Iggo Mar 2014 #34
Indeed amuse bouche Mar 2014 #38
I recommend the Rug Doctor... Iggo Mar 2014 #39
I agree amuse bouche Mar 2014 #40
I admit to liking hrmjustin LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #62
For our newer members... onager Mar 2014 #35
"Believers Happily Bashing Non-Believers" amuse bouche Mar 2014 #41
Here's how that works... onager Mar 2014 #43
Summed up perfectly amuse bouche Mar 2014 #44
+1000000000! cleanhippie Mar 2014 #47
And don't ask them to try to explain anything pertaining to common religious belief in there Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #49
Yes edhopper Mar 2014 #52
That sounds about right. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #91
A wise decision. n/t trotsky Mar 2014 #48
I don't know if lent is still going on or not but AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #55
Consider making that a permanent decision, like quitting smoking. cleanhippie Mar 2014 #50
It is odd to have an op with 18 replies, only seven of which are visible. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #53
If you're tempted to see what's invisible skepticscott Mar 2014 #54
From the looks of it, you are not the only one. Hardly anyone responds to him anymore. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #56
I think I'm the only one who doesn't have him on ignore Heddi Apr 2014 #57
Nope. onager Apr 2014 #58
Have no one on ignore Lordquinton Apr 2014 #60
One encounter pscot Apr 2014 #59
Well, at least he's no longer trying to hide how much he hates atheists Rob H. Apr 2014 #61
He probably read this thread and figured out it didn't matter anyway. Iggo Apr 2014 #63
Has anyone gone back to engaging with him? cleanhippie May 2014 #64
not me. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #65
And how would anyone "engage" with him, really? smartphone May 2014 #66
When one constantly states that they have little/no internet, yet post all day, everyday... cleanhippie May 2014 #69
that one recently claimed that her 130,000+ post count was only because she used to be a moderator. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #71
Assuming one has to sleep, eat, and do other bodily functions 10 hours a day, smartphone May 2014 #74
90 day post count Warren Stupidity May 2014 #75
Ooops, misread that other post smartphone May 2014 #77
Now, now, wave at the nice man. mr blur May 2014 #67
Hey, buddy! cleanhippie May 2014 #68
I prefer the... NeoGreen May 2014 #70
Do we have to wave? onager May 2014 #76
!! tiger_lily99 Feb 2016 #81
It would be like engaging with skepticscott May 2014 #72
more like a deer tick. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #73
Lent 2016! Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #78
Should this thread be pinned... NeoGreen Feb 2016 #79
Nah. I'll just kick it every year. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #80
I've had him on Ignore for a long time now RussBLib Feb 2016 #82
Is it Lent again? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2016 #83
Eat meat on a Friday. That's all right. Iggo Feb 2016 #90
I never eat fish on Friday awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #92
Looks like the cosmic forces Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #84
They say that skepticscott Feb 2016 #86
Everything happens for a reason. Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #87
And some things skepticscott Feb 2016 #88
LMAO trotsky Feb 2016 #89
Good idea, Warren. I'm glad this got kicked for this year. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #85
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