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Atheists & Agnostics

Warpy

(113,130 posts)

1. Debating the faithful is not going to get you anywhere

Reply to jogi1969 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:03 PM

Mar 2016

because the rules are completely different. Faith is unreasonable, illogical, and incapable of proof. You're trying to use logic to counter a totally illogical system. In addition, you are threatening to take a binkie away from a two year old. The outcome of that is never going to be good because that binkie is what helps him cope with a world he suspects is both hostile and impersonal.

My best advice is to walk away from this one.

ETA: The riddle of Epicurus is a good parting shot complete with a reminder that the devil Christians use to square an all-good god with evil in the world could function only with the permission of that all good god.

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debating a christian - little help [View all] jogi1969 Mar 2016 OP

Debating the faithful is not going to get you anywhere Warpy Mar 2016 #1

I agree. The way I feel about people like this is Mr.Bill Mar 2016 #2

Yep awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #24

I used to be an atheist SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #3

Two quotes - packman Mar 2016 #4

Agree BooBrown Mar 2016 #16

Or say "no pun intended" awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #25

Ask them if their God is capable of creating a human being that doesn't believe in him. Freelancer Mar 2016 #5

What Warpy said. Duppers Mar 2016 #6

Just tell them Pascal's Wager works equally well with devil worship Major Nikon Mar 2016 #7

I have to agree with others who say don't even bother. Curmudgeoness Mar 2016 #8

I must agree with Curmudgeoness. mr blur Mar 2016 #11

Not to mention that these people are now on a mission. Curmudgeoness Mar 2016 #15

God loves you, Jesus loves you... Ask him what "love" actually means. DetlefK Mar 2016 #9

Thank you for the advice jogi1969 Mar 2016 #10

You have probably already done everything you can for them. Promethean Mar 2016 #12

Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing...very rambly Heddi Mar 2016 #13

If you enjoy hanging out with these people, Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #14

Tell the jerk to go help people who need it, like jesus said. lindysalsagal Mar 2016 #17

Probably best to come to an acccord Buzz cook Mar 2016 #18

If you want to win the argument scubasteve76 Mar 2016 #19

I've used this many times in the past; A HERETIC I AM Mar 2016 #20

I'd probably just start wearing my more offensive OriginalGeek Mar 2016 #21

Lol. i once attended a Red Cross CPR class where one participant showed up wearing a red shirt cleanhippie Mar 2016 #22

Lol, I need one of those shirts OriginalGeek Mar 2016 #23

I was surprised to see a car with a Darwin fish on it recently. progressoid Mar 2016 #26