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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Poll: Where do you stand on free tuition to state colleges and universities [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)5. It should be affordable. Very affordable.
People devalue things that are free, and this scheme will destroy HBCUs.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/darrensands/clyburn-sanders-education-plan-is-a-disaster-for-private-hbc#.og5Pl2JORR
Clyburn: Sanders Education Plan Is A Disaster For Private Black Colleges
Youve got to think about the consequences of things. [If] you start handing out two years of free college at public institutions are you ready for all the black, private HBCUs to close down? Thats whats going to happen.
posted on Feb. 21, 2016, at 1:23 p.m.
ORANGEBURG, South Carolina Days after endorsing Hillary Clinton, Rep. Jim Clyburn has a specific and sharp critique of her opponent: Bernie Sanders education plan would threaten the existence of smaller, private historically black colleges, Clyburn told BuzzFeed News in an interview.
The third-ranking Democrat in the House is one of the fiercest and most prominent champions for historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) in politics.
The next Democratic primary contest is here, where Clyburn is immensely popular. He said he will speak on Clintons behalf at Union Baptist Church in Charleston on Sunday and also to Clinton herself to map out a game plan about whether the two will campaign together in South Carolina before the Feb. 27 primary.
But on Saturday he told BuzzFeed News in a telephone interview that while he acknowledged Sanders campaign is gaining traction with college-aged students in South Carolina, the education plan theyre attracted to doesnt protect institutions like nearby Claflin University, which is private.
The third-ranking Democrat in the House is one of the fiercest and most prominent champions for historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) in politics.
The next Democratic primary contest is here, where Clyburn is immensely popular. He said he will speak on Clintons behalf at Union Baptist Church in Charleston on Sunday and also to Clinton herself to map out a game plan about whether the two will campaign together in South Carolina before the Feb. 27 primary.
But on Saturday he told BuzzFeed News in a telephone interview that while he acknowledged Sanders campaign is gaining traction with college-aged students in South Carolina, the education plan theyre attracted to doesnt protect institutions like nearby Claflin University, which is private.
Maybe people will start to understand why Sanders didn't get a rousing reception at Morehouse. His plan, in effect, will help to close schools like that, which are part of our history and for a time were the ONLY institutions where a "colored person" (which was the polite term at the time) could get an education in some states. Even in the "liberal" states, there were often quotas imposed on black applicants at private unis, and good luck affording the tuition at many of those places.
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Poll: Where do you stand on free tuition to state colleges and universities [View all]
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
OP
I attend an East Coast private college, with tuition and fees running about 66K per year...
anotherproletariat
Feb 2016
#57
If you can't fill out a FAFSA form then you probably shouldn't be in college in the first place.
NobodyHere
Feb 2016
#110
Gods no. The WORST part of modern day life is having to PROVE to the gov't or other people
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Feb 2016
#101
I'm unsure. Should we seek to continue institutions that celebrate separating
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#8
Should we continue with Historically Women's Colleges? Eliminate that option for them, too?
MADem
Feb 2016
#19
Frankly, I think people will still want to go to private colleges even if tuition
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#32
No, you don't. You live in a rarified world if you think everyone needs an MA. nt
MADem
Feb 2016
#75
Cooks and chefs and landscapers, artists, musicians, electricians, dental assistants, medical
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#117
Really? That's not my experience, and I've got relatives who do some of those jobs.
MADem
Feb 2016
#118
I'm not African-American, and I do not understand the argument for black colleges.
onpatrol98
Feb 2016
#102
I would like to add that one of the reasons that I strongly support tuition-free
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#16
Even if tuition is free, students will still have to pay for room and board.
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#34
A lot of young people do not live within busing distance of a community college.
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#72
My niece cannot afford the internet, and there is no bus service to her small town.
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#89
Buy her a car. Or tell her to put up a rideshare plea on the college bulletin board.
MADem
Feb 2016
#91
What is this essay even SAYING? UGH~~! That because the percentage is "small" that these students
MADem
Feb 2016
#60
The percentage of private HBCU students is small relative to public+private HBCU students.
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#62
I don't get that impression at all. But it doesn't matter what I think about tone(as I am not a PoC)
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#66
I support someone who aims high and will fight for his ideals that benefit the average citizen
Art_from_Ark
Feb 2016
#9
There is no downside to making public colleges and universities tuition free.
LibDemAlways
Feb 2016
#10
We can also already wipe out the planet several times over, it seems to me that some of that
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#42
Graduate students often get jobs teaching. They are not well or adequately paid,
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#35
Rich kids get free education. Do you think that they value it less for that reason?
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#37
I support free tuition and fees but Bernie's plan is a bunch of nonsense
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#24
Yes, I have applied for FAFSA and I pay monthly on my (very modest, admittedly) student loan
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#41
That may be true, but you will not get there following Bernie's plan
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2016
#96
The idea is to impose a tiny tax on the many, many, many trades and I believe
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#76
As long as workers retirement accounts and state pension funds are exempted from the tax
geek tragedy
Feb 2016
#45
How would this raise constitutional questions if it's already been done with no problem?
senz
Feb 2016
#53
Yes. And a lot of the trades are there to hedge or to "make" the market appear
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#77
Well at least we now know who the Republicans in Democratic clothing around DU are...
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#55
And we know who doesn't understand a damn thing about the historical and cultural significance
MADem
Feb 2016
#61
This is how Bernie proposes to pay for free tuition on public colleges & universities.
senz
Feb 2016
#56
The poll results speak for themselves. I am surprised, but the time for free tuition at
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#109
You need a special option for for college employees: "I support it but wait until after I retire."
Gidney N Cloyd
Feb 2016
#112