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PeaceNikki

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73. It's a total non-issue.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016
http://zfacts.com/2016/02/clinton-speaking-fees/

Over the negative din of politics, it can be hard to hear what’s positive. Hillary Clinton has given $17.6 million of her speaking fees to charity (see below). That’s 26 times as much as she made on her three Goldman Sachs speeches combined, or 50% more than she made on her 51 speeches in 2014 and 2015. Before presenting the details, let me summarize.

1) Her fees were not the least bit unusual given her stature.
2) Over 100 lesser known Americans are also in the $200,000+ category.
3) The Goldman Sachs fees were below her average fee.
4) She gave $17.6 million of her speaking fees to charity.
5) Charging Goldman Sachs less would have just meant more profits for them and less for charity.

There is simply no evidence, or logic, supporting the idea that she would sell out her whole career and deceive her huge base of supporters with a fake proposal to rein in Wall Street (a proposal that Elizabeth Warren supports). That she would do all this in return for three below-average fees from Goldman Sachs is beyond absurd.

Now take a quick look at a Talk at Golmand Sachs (GS), or at civil-rights-leader John Lewis talking with the CEO of GS, or the CEO of the NAACP or LGBT Professionals speaking at GS. Obviously GS hopes for good publicity and the speakers hope to influence GS. If you’re looking for conspiracies, this is a very silly place to look for them.

Many seem to think the highest possible legitimate speaking fee couldn’t be over $10,000, and anything higher must be a bribe. But looking at the list below, it’s obvious no one is bribing Charlie Rose, Lady Gaga or Larry the Cable Guy, or any of the other 120 people who get paid $200,000 or more per speech.

$50,000 Charlie Rose TV talk show host
$80,000 Malcolm Gladwell Author: Blink, and Outliers
$100,000+ Bill Maher Left commentator MSNBC
$150,000 Condilezza Rice Sect. of State, W. Bush
$200,000+ Jerry Seinfeld Comedian, actor, writer
$200,000+ Hillary Clinton Sect. of State, Obama
$200,000+ Lady Gaga Singer & empowerment speaker
$200,000+ Larry The Cable Guy Radio personality, comedian
$400,000 Ben Bernake Ex-Fed chairman, Bush, Obama

Some will skim this page, see it supports Hillary, and make unsupported accusations. But it is unfair to Hillary to let such false claims go unchallenged, and it is tearing the Democrats apart.

Goldman Sachs paid her $225k in 2013, about $10k less than her average in the list above, and the lowest fee paid in 2013.

It would be foolish to try to bribe someone with a slightly low-ball payment for services. And of course there is a far simpler explanation: She was just earning money by giving speeches. Money for her expenses (sure she lives, but she also works incredibly hard), for the campaign and for her Foundation. End of theory. We’d all love to win the lottery, and she won a decent sized lottery—the speaking-fee lottery. So she cashed in her winning ticket. Wouldn’t we all?

Salon’s Ultimate Moralistic Nonsense
Salon ran an op-ed headlined “Hillary Clinton’s artful smear.” The op-ed, to its credit, never suggests any smear, artful or not, by Hillary. I suppose it’s now politically correct at Salon (which writes the headlines) to bash Clinton.

Also to the op-ed’s credit, it quotes Clinton: “You will not find that I ever changed a view or a vote because of any donation I ever received,” and notes, “and there is no evidence to the contrary.” Instead, this is the op-eds’ point:

Salon: It was not nice of Hillary to take that $675,000 from Goldman Sachs, because that is “lost savings and lost homes for bilked investors.”
Really? If she’d spoken for free, GS would have donated that money to the investors they bilked? Does Salon think GS has turned into a sort of Big-Bucks Salvation Army?
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OK, time for Econ 1. Corporations are for profit. Give one $100, and their profit goes up by $100. They do two things with profits. Pay them to shareholders, and use them to make more profits. That’s call cap-it-al-ism. If Hillary charges less, their shareholders get richer.

The “give it back” crowd is being idiotic. If those with money to burn pay you too much and you give it back, they just burn it for something else. The best you can do is take as much money as possible from Goldman Sachs—50 times more if you can get it—and spend that money on something better than Goldman Sachs’ shareholders would. Duh.

Clinton spends the money three ways: for her own expenses (which are high partly because she’s running for office), on her election campaign ($468,037), and on the Clinton Foundation, 89% of whose funding goes to charity (an excellent track record).

According to the Washington Post, Bill Clinton has contributed speaking fees to their foundation 73 times and Hillary Clinton 15 times. Hillary’s contributions include one address to Goldman Sachs and another to JP Morgan Chase. In total, Hillary donated something over $17.6 million. Contrary to what you may have heard, their foundation is highly efficient with only 11% overhead, and has provided $2,000 million dollars to the poor and needy.

Their foundation projects include training African farmers to get access to seeds, equipment and markets for their crops, reforestation projects in Africa and the Caribbean, renewable energy projects in island nations, and work to lower the cost of HIV/AIDS medicine and scale up pediatric AIDS treatment. And here’s a picture from Oakland (next door to me) from the Clinton Foundation’s “Too Small to Fail” project.

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Why does she even want the presidency? nt artislife Mar 2016 #1
Revenge on Bill. Avalux Mar 2016 #2
I have wondered senz Mar 2016 #48
I think you are close. She's going to show him she was the better one all along. thereismore Mar 2016 #139
I disagree. Carolina Mar 2016 #209
Bill was a genius, but I don't think how SHE is thereismore Mar 2016 #230
Exactly Carolina Mar 2016 #236
Marian Wright Edelman is supporting HRC. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #256
I agree with everything you said. And that's been true of a lot of these rich Feminists. They TALK sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #268
Indeed: she is a follower, not a leader. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #271
This is how I see her and her "illustrious" career. artislife Mar 2016 #274
POWER TRIP Plucketeer Mar 2016 #149
makes schmakes NJCher Mar 2016 #179
Power. EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #4
in a nutshell dana_b Mar 2016 #28
yes 840high Mar 2016 #250
Maybe to use her influence to make things better for Americans. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #18
Wow. The Kool-Aid must be practically running out of your ears by now. Gene Debs Mar 2016 #22
LOL! Plucketeer Mar 2016 #146
Is that the floating eyeballs phenomenon? Divernan Mar 2016 #214
And you honestly think that they will not want a thing in return...oh my bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #34
Hey! I wanted an "E" ticket on the fastest rides at WaltDisneyWorld... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #42
You're trying to talk to people leftynyc Mar 2016 #44
It is being rich, it is using power in a corrupt way. artislife Mar 2016 #52
And where has Hillary used leftynyc Mar 2016 #74
Just the fact she isn't releasing her transcipts pinebox Mar 2016 #103
Why don't you open up your email to leftynyc Mar 2016 #151
Just own your damn politics regardless of party... DeGreg Mar 2016 #175
"Clinton is pretty much a Republican" SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #186
DeGreg speaks for me. Hillary's foreign policy stances and corporate connections are all Republican CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #188
Take a deep breath SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #190
I wasn't spinning a narrative. CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #199
bye SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #205
Does this mean I'm off your Christmas card list? CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #263
So, so well said. bjo59 Mar 2016 #257
Handful DeGreg Mar 2016 #265
Right On! BBG Mar 2016 #219
You don't get it, do you? Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #216
Don't be stupid. 840high Mar 2016 #252
Gee...people donate and then their shit get done artislife Mar 2016 #116
Go ahead an post leftynyc Mar 2016 #152
I'm sure there are plenty of examples NJCher Mar 2016 #182
I think that transcription from audio might be about to go prime time! CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #277
Really I don't care what she did with the money All in it together Mar 2016 #266
LIE PATROL... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #78
Think being rich is a crime? liberalnarb Mar 2016 #164
No - I'm just not poor leftynyc Mar 2016 #174
Oh boo hoo liberalnarb Mar 2016 #177
Yawn leftynyc Mar 2016 #201
Wow. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #208
70% on everything beyond $500,000 ? bvar22 Mar 2016 #193
Make it 70% beyond $1 million leftynyc Mar 2016 #198
You do pay plenty of taxes because kacekwl Mar 2016 #218
Ya know, I'd like to hear her speak also. But I can't afford the $225,000 cover charge... Raster Mar 2016 #49
Much better than.. gerryatwork Mar 2016 #143
If Hillary Clinton is the nominee, I will support and vote for her. Raster Mar 2016 #144
Yeah, the Goldman Sachs Group and the Keystone Pipeline people can't get enough of what she says. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #81
I didn't understand why she was going all around the country up here speaking on polly7 Mar 2016 #101
Doubt it. Hearts don't change. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2016 #134
WOW, I Actually NEVER Heard Anyone Say That Our Loud! ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #161
While you're getting out in front to defend her, she's picking your back pockets. n/t ebayfool Mar 2016 #197
Make things better? Carolina Mar 2016 #210
The speaking fees are pay in advance for influence. TheUndecider Mar 2016 #224
Holy crap! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #246
If she wanted to make things better, she wouldn't be supporting fracking and calling the TPP the Cavallo Mar 2016 #248
Get real - Hillary does things for Hillary. 840high Mar 2016 #251
She could make the annual salary in one afternoon giving speeches BUT Mira Mar 2016 #26
Because she's Big Time tk2kewl Mar 2016 #37
Power and Ego. More seductive than money. senz Mar 2016 #40
simple, power Duckhunter935 Mar 2016 #63
POWER Orange Butterfly Mar 2016 #112
I think the Clintons were always about power BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #158
I think it is more related to her father. grasswire Mar 2016 #173
Big $$ groomed her to the position.... chknltl Mar 2016 #192
Raw ambition Carolina Mar 2016 #204
Money and power, just like every Republican Lorien Mar 2016 #223
Because, you'll be able to add a zero... scscholar Mar 2016 #253
Because it is her turn. Also a gender and 9/11. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #270
Mind-blowing amount of money ... Auggie Mar 2016 #3
This is something that every politician does when no longer in office. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #5
"Everybody does it!" EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #6
You brought up Karl Rove...it often seems like he is running Hillary's campaign. Punkingal Mar 2016 #8
"When no longer in office" tk2kewl Mar 2016 #11
But she wants back into office in the worst way. Did you notice she's trying to be President? Not Gene Debs Mar 2016 #23
Sheesh. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #89
Thank you BlueMTexpat. Your post is absolutely correct. Hillary haters asjr Mar 2016 #142
They will anyway. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #153
Yes, let them believe if it gives them solace and cools their fevered brows. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #187
You really think that those donators did not think she would run for President. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #35
Ah, the "Minority Report" theory. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #69
Did you get those ideas from the, "I'm totally lost on what elected officials do for a living"? MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #47
How much did they pay Jimmy Carter to speak while he was helping to build homes? n/t jtuck004 Mar 2016 #138
Nice deflection. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #150
Trouble is, Hillary is no longer a former politician... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #260
I'll just leave this here: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #7
But, but, Janey, this is an open forum and anything Hillary-neutral is strictly "verboten". Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #10
And that charity was the Clinton Foundation. Beowulf Mar 2016 #106
Oops, I guess that was forgotten. panader0 Mar 2016 #117
Re the Foundation and some of the weapons being used to commit war crimes in Yemen. polly7 Mar 2016 #126
Thanks polly7 panader0 Mar 2016 #137
You're welcome. polly7 Mar 2016 #165
you can read up on the foundation's good works here...https://www.clintonfoundation.org/ yawnmaster Mar 2016 #119
Ask the Haitians about the Foundation's good work. Beowulf Mar 2016 #183
Anyone have the link to Kim Jong Il's old web site? beedle Mar 2016 #185
It's kinda like Zuckerberg (or whatever his name is) truebluegreen Mar 2016 #160
From your link. randome Mar 2016 #14
thanks so she worked cheap for her son-in-laws employer-wonder what else she'll do for them azurnoir Mar 2016 #25
Thanks for the link, Janey! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #96
Hillary's speaking fees are in line with male counterparts. hamsterjill Mar 2016 #189
All I'll say is..... seekthetruth Mar 2016 #206
She amassed about $50 million dollars in 15 years. Her priorities aren't with the 99%. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #221
Hey, buddy pintobean Mar 2016 #225
Not so good. I see the government in the hands of Big Money and some so-called Democrats rhett o rick Mar 2016 #229
Check out the payment on the Keystone XL speech. eom Frustratedlady Mar 2016 #9
there are multiple Keystone speeches worth $1,916,000 tk2kewl Mar 2016 #30
2 million dollars on the Keystone pipeline!!! Herman4747 Mar 2016 #53
I would bet money that she does. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #120
Goodness...two in one day! Raster Mar 2016 #54
another two on consecutive days tk2kewl Mar 2016 #56
Looks like she spent a lot of time telling them to "cut it out!" beerandjesus Mar 2016 #90
Good for her, it's awesome that ppl are willing to pay that much giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #12
It buys influence...she was for it and then against it and will be for it again. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #38
Oh please. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #65
She will stop the liberal show and go right back to the centrist right... bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #88
Then she will round up all the liberals put them in FEMA Camps giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #135
WOW Carolina Mar 2016 #211
Oh yes, you BernieBros are soooooo much smarter than us. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #217
News Flash Carolina Mar 2016 #238
Awww, you go with that. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #239
I have absolutely no problem auntpurl Mar 2016 #13
She's not being paid to speak. She's doing the speaking for free. The money is for favors later on. Gene Debs Mar 2016 #27
I know no such thing. auntpurl Mar 2016 #32
You mean her platform du jour, don't you? denvine Mar 2016 #129
I mean the platform she has on her website. auntpurl Mar 2016 #131
In the world? polly7 Mar 2016 #50
You dispute that Hillary Clinton is world famous? auntpurl Mar 2016 #51
Yeah ............ pretty much - and absolutely dispute she's one of the most respected. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #57
So, Hillary Clinton, who was First Lady of the United States auntpurl Mar 2016 #62
World leaders know many people. polly7 Mar 2016 #71
Ok. nt auntpurl Mar 2016 #76
Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #15
It's great that she did so well.. but she should now be barred from public service basselope Mar 2016 #16
Absolutely! tk2kewl Mar 2016 #43
You know she doesn't owe them a thing, right? Octafish Mar 2016 #17
That's a lot of transcripts to release Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #60
Dang, that's a lot of money. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #19
Flat Broke! SoapBox Mar 2016 #20
Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President. George II Mar 2016 #21
And then we'll see what all that money bought. Gene Debs Mar 2016 #29
Yup. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #93
she might win the nomination however the rest is yet to be seen azurnoir Mar 2016 #31
"Our corrupt candidate will still win!" whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #97
Damn! I wish someone would pay me that much to speak. wyldwolf Mar 2016 #24
Exactly, damn haters. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #33
It would be fine if she was not going to run for the highest office in the world...not fine bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #64
Must be a damn good speech, she should share a speech that great. nt Coincidence Mar 2016 #100
Everything for a dollar, anything for a dollar; got it thx. DeGreg Mar 2016 #166
wife, kids, mortgage. Yup, you're welcome wyldwolf Mar 2016 #226
You just figure this out? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #36
imagine the money she'd get offered NOT to speak tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #39
i find it funny to demonize making money..... beachbum bob Mar 2016 #41
Bernie doesn't take money from the NRA tk2kewl Mar 2016 #46
Greed is a sin... WDIM Mar 2016 #70
K&R! Carolina Mar 2016 #240
A D- rating from the NRA is support? panader0 Mar 2016 #121
It's not "making money" that is the issue EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #124
Wow, wow, wow! DeGreg Mar 2016 #180
Did she manage to fit in any pro bono work? Volunteering? senz Mar 2016 #45
She gave millions of dollars from speaking fees to charity auntpurl Mar 2016 #66
To the Clinton Foundation, her power base. senz Mar 2016 #122
What charity? BeanMusical Mar 2016 #127
Hum...there IS this. Have a look, unless it would clash with your mindset: Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #82
Yup, funnels it into the Clinton Foundation, her power base and PR front. senz Mar 2016 #133
That level of Greed is disgusting... nt WDIM Mar 2016 #55
I understand some of these "speeches" xloadiex Mar 2016 #58
Ridiculous..... Sivart Mar 2016 #59
She was not holding a public or appointed office at the time of these speeches. I see no issue here. LonePirate Mar 2016 #61
And you do not think they knew she was going to run for President when they bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #67
They offered/she charged certain fees and reached a mutual agreement. LonePirate Mar 2016 #77
an ethical person would disqualify themselves from holding office again tk2kewl Mar 2016 #72
That's ridiculous. An ethical person would not give special favors. LonePirate Mar 2016 #92
to claim that this is akin to "a job" is a little silly tk2kewl Mar 2016 #99
She performed a repeated task on a contractual basis. That's a job. LonePirate Mar 2016 #108
hmm...I don't see any unions, or teachers' organizations, or environmental groups on this list... KansDem Mar 2016 #68
It's a total non-issue. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #73
if you say so tk2kewl Mar 2016 #83
Their foundation is highly efficient with only 11% overhead, and has provided $2,000 million dollars PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #84
Not some. 26 times as much as she made on her three Goldman Sachs speeches combined PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #91
Beautiful vdogg Mar 2016 #128
I know. The cult of personality "fan" or "foe" shit is divisive nonsense. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #136
The money comes with strings. Quid pro quo. Goldman-Sachs see it as an "investment rhett o rick Mar 2016 #212
I know, just look at all of the stuff Larry the Cable Guy and Gaga did for them in return. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #215
Those that side with the Big Money feel glib that their candidate has the Big Money rhett o rick Mar 2016 #231
That list doesn't seem to show a lot of Hillary paying 'attention to African American concerns' FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #75
see above PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #79
Shame on anyone who finds this acceptable in a politician? SFnomad Mar 2016 #80
She is now... tk2kewl Mar 2016 #85
Re: I can change the OP title ... SFnomad Mar 2016 #87
shame on you for finding it acceptable... tk2kewl Mar 2016 #95
Shame on you SFnomad Mar 2016 #102
I didn't say "otherwise" tk2kewl Mar 2016 #111
You don't think she's been playing the long game? truebluegreen Mar 2016 #232
You'd think it was a right wingnut website around here SFnomad Mar 2016 #237
I dunno, because he isn't? truebluegreen Mar 2016 #241
Don't put word in your mouth? SFnomad Mar 2016 #244
Um, no. truebluegreen Mar 2016 #259
Lol billhicks76 Mar 2016 #272
She knew she was going to run for president. To think otherwise isn't even realistic. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #86
Re: She knew she was going to run for president. SFnomad Mar 2016 #94
Taking millions from corporations that are killing the planet and destroying polly7 Mar 2016 #104
So now you're accusing a quid pro quo SFnomad Mar 2016 #109
Well, just basic common sense. polly7 Mar 2016 #110
So the answer is ... SFnomad Mar 2016 #115
The evidence is in the OP. polly7 Mar 2016 #118
In addition - FlaGranny Mar 2016 #276
$21million in investments to buy a major collaborator. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #98
Transcripts? We don't need no steenking transcripts tularetom Mar 2016 #105
WOW! Carolina Mar 2016 #243
The new Hillary theme song! pinebox Mar 2016 #107
i like Peter Gabriel's Big Time for her tk2kewl Mar 2016 #113
More like Games without Frontiers...... by Peter Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #145
Question to those Bernin'.... HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #114
same way he's been funded so far Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #130
To the extent that .... HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #141
So.... He'll top out at a tiny fraction of what the GOP will raise? Orrex Mar 2016 #157
it is, quite frankly, disgusting Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #123
and she's really not that good of a speaker... Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #125
We'd be outraged if it was Bush II. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #132
Indeed! Shame! Nt Duppers Mar 2016 #140
K N R-ed Faux pas Mar 2016 #147
Wow! Good for her! She deserves it! It doesn't bother me a whit! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #148
Website sucks for Android phone SHRED Mar 2016 #154
the table i posted on DU lays out ok on the phone though, right? tk2kewl Mar 2016 #155
Ed Schultz actually defended this yesterday even though he supports Bernie BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #156
So greedy and corrupt. AzDar Mar 2016 #159
what could she possibly have to say in a "speech" that was worth a quarter million dollars an hour?? BREMPRO Mar 2016 #162
"American Camping Association", "Let's Talk Entertainment", "Cardiovascular Research Foundation" Yavin4 Mar 2016 #163
It would take a very stupid person to limit their speechmaking to only those polly7 Mar 2016 #167
~$2 Million from Keystone XL companies tk2kewl Mar 2016 #168
What will Keystone say if she doesn't do the pipeline? Yavin4 Mar 2016 #171
i'm sure she can find a way to make it up to them tk2kewl Mar 2016 #172
Or not. What incentive does she have? Yavin4 Mar 2016 #181
Absolutely! Then she'll be able to use the powers and perks of her elected office... Raster Mar 2016 #196
What would make you think she wouldn't do it? Cavallo Mar 2016 #249
She makes more on one speech than the president makes in a year.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #169
totally bought out.... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #170
What then is the specific rate that should be charged? LanternWaste Mar 2016 #176
Agree. Unfortunately, that shame will spread over a wide swath of . . . DrBulldog Mar 2016 #178
Recommend. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #184
Did she give the Keystone Pipeline folks a refund? nt mhatrw Mar 2016 #191
And of course all of these little "chats" were just chocked full of Hillarian anecdotes.... Raster Mar 2016 #194
I would turn down a second presidential term and go back on the circuit. oasis Mar 2016 #195
Kick warrprayer Mar 2016 #200
K&R Carolina Mar 2016 #202
Kicked and recommended! This should receive hundreds of recommendations. nt Enthusiast Mar 2016 #203
Resume... timlot Mar 2016 #207
Shame On Me JGug1 Mar 2016 #213
There's a great Bernie ad in here somewhere TheRickles Mar 2016 #220
She's a Republican, plain and simple Lorien Mar 2016 #222
Hillary serves BIG BANKS and CORPORATIONS not US. YourAMIGO Mar 2016 #227
She's been a busy girl! leftcoastmountains Mar 2016 #228
access! Tragl1 Mar 2016 #233
Great post Carolina Mar 2016 #247
Thanks Tragl1 Mar 2016 #254
.+10 840high Mar 2016 #255
right on the money! tk2kewl Mar 2016 #262
I almost feel sorry for her. (Not quite.) SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #234
The corporate gravy train is the old status quo felix_numinous Mar 2016 #235
It's a SHONDA!!!! highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #242
It's possible that a way to give money to candidates is call it a fee for speaking. Just saying. Cavallo Mar 2016 #245
She's a corporate spokeswoman. ozone_man Mar 2016 #258
$250k per hour is fine for Hill and Bill. $600k per year is fine for Chelsea. Skeeter Barnes Mar 2016 #261
Shhh. . .this makes HRC people feel hurt. You will be alerted. Feeling the Bern Mar 2016 #264
It's disgusting and amazing how over-the-top these bribes are! SciDude Mar 2016 #267
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #269
Apparently reprimanding people pays well. nt raouldukelives Mar 2016 #273
Speaking fees are nearly a non-issue bhikkhu Mar 2016 #275
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