2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: The bashing of the Progressives (my own last post here in GDP) [View all]think
(11,641 posts)Call me a hypocrite all you want.
Hillary chose to take the money from corrupt banks that are currently violating laws and known to spend billions on buying influence. Those are well known facts to people who read about it.
If you think that's wrong to call out so be it. You can wear your blinders.
If you think calling single payer the stuff of unicorns so be it. You can ignore the rest of the civilized world.
If you want to say Sanders voted for the Brady bill in the past guess what. That's a valid point and worth discussing. I can't wear blinders and act like it didn't happen. I can point out that he voted for the assault weapons ban many times since then though.
No. I can and will stand by both of my arguments because facts bear them out. Hillary took the money from corrupt banks. Can you deny that? I believe it will influence her decision making. it will CORRUPT her ability to act impartially. Historically we know this to be true. Her lack of support for Glass Steagall to break up criminal too big to fail banks and her unwillingness to even acknowledge the corruption speaks volumes.
PROVE IT is not a quality defense of soft corruption. It belies the very nature of the term soft corruption. If Hillary Clinton had been in office those paid speeches would have been hard corruption and she would be removed from office. Soft corruption relies on playing the loopholes in the law to circumvent the spirit of the law. Hillary has a LONG track record of doing so. This isn't about an isolated case of one speech for mass amounts of money. This is about a long stream of paid speeches to corrupt banks and corporations.
Single payer is not a unicorn and no amount of discussion will EVER make single payer a unicorn. It exists right next door in Canada. If you want to argue that single payer isn't the best route so be it. But mocking it and calling it a unicorn and free stuff is complete bullshit.