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shadowmayor

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73. Hang in there Victor
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jul 2016

It's not the last phase of your life, just the first (and it'll be difficult at times) phase of the rest of your life. I know you know, but the meds they hand out at the VA are not helpful to many of us. I spent OIL or was it OIF3 in Abu Ghraib prison as a stop-loss, cross-level engineer reservist. What a shit stain and death palace that place was. Jesus on a friggin' crutch, but people who haven't seen, smelled, and tasted war have no clue. The suffering and death we unleashed on the Iraqi people is beyond description. We decimated an entire country and unleashed hell on our way "out".

Voting for a resolution vs voting for war is also a misnomer - anybody paying attention to the Bush cabal knew better. But vote they did - Biden, Clinton, and a bunch of others. Shame on them. And shame on our fawning corporate media. And even more - shame shame shame on so many of our fellow Americans who cheered on March 19 when bombs were dropping on Baghdad in shock and awe as people were pulverized, incinerated and crushed beneath those bombs.

Part of the rush to war was due to the fact that sanctions were about to be lifted, as Saddam had basically complied with all the terms of those sanctions. He also volunteered to leave Iraq to avoid war - we said no. Turkey and Iran offered their help - all to no avail. The USA was hell bent for revenge on a people who had nothing to do with 9-11.

I will vote for Hillary and gladly do so on a number of levels: First - there may be 3 Supreme Court nominations in the next term; Second - I really really like to see Republicans lose; and Third - we may get the Senate back and HRC working with Franken, Warren, and Bernie may accomplish some great things. I will never forget those who supported the war however. Her speech on the Senate floor was in support of the war - not a call to avoid war. We never get perfect candidates, and most overlook the mistakes made by their favorites, but compared to tRump - the stakes are way too high.

What in the hell did the people of Iraq ever do to the people of the United States. And folks - don't bother thanking me for my service - you might get an earful you're not prepared to hear.

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Wow! still_one Jul 2016 #1
Excellent post. I was like you in most every way. apcalc Jul 2016 #2
I think I'm that Bernie supporter you're talking about. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #3
That's all anyone can do coming from where you are... BooScout Jul 2016 #4
I get what you are saying, but I still have a hard time voting for Hillary Victor_c3 Jul 2016 #5
Peace, Victor. Tobin S. Jul 2016 #8
Do you hate every single person who voted for the Iraq war athena Jul 2016 #12
I...I can't believe I just had to read your post here... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #14
He didn't hold "those people" responsible, only Hillary leftofcool Jul 2016 #15
She's the only one running for President this time who voted for it... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #17
Yup. AllyCat Jul 2016 #75
However she is the only person running for president that voted for that war Victor_c3 Jul 2016 #24
Victor I'm so sorry you are getting this kind of response. I thank you for your service and it emulatorloo Jul 2016 #51
I support you too and understand your reasons for voting the way you say. AllyCat Jul 2016 #76
she had to know it was all bullshit Skittles Jul 2016 #81
Being a veteran athena Jul 2016 #31
It has nothing to do with what apparatus is between her legs Victor_c3 Jul 2016 #34
So, it's hatred to hold people accountable for their decisions... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #41
That post had nothing to do with Hillary being a woman NOTHING!! pangaia Jul 2016 #53
Calling Hillary Clinton "incompetent" is the very definition of misogyny. athena Jul 2016 #55
OK. Have it your way. pangaia Jul 2016 #57
Didn't realize incompetent was a sexist slur now... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #58
Agreed gaspee Jul 2016 #59
Thank you, gaspee. athena Jul 2016 #60
Sorry, but that just ain't so. Calling someone incompetent is NOT the definition of tblue37 Jul 2016 #78
OMG! SammyWinstonJack Jul 2016 #67
Speaking of hatred and vitriol for a fellow human.... Victor_c3 Jul 2016 #84
And your rationale makes your vote a righteous vote. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #13
^^^This^^^ dflprincess Jul 2016 #68
I know it's hard.... BooScout Jul 2016 #19
So you would never accept an apology, which she did give? Loki Jul 2016 #21
Respectfully disagree helmedon1974 Jul 2016 #23
This is a great post. LisaM Jul 2016 #35
Welcome to DU, helmedon1974. calimary Jul 2016 #64
Excellent post. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #79
Bless you, Victor. And thank you for your service. Tatiana Jul 2016 #30
Thank you for your service . apcalc Jul 2016 #32
I am not even going to thank you for your service, pangaia Jul 2016 #54
Simple question? BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #56
I will say nearly nothing can justify a war Victor_c3 Jul 2016 #85
Hang in there Victor shadowmayor Jul 2016 #73
Thanks for that Victor_c3 Jul 2016 #82
I hear you BooScout. It is hard to dial down commitment to a cause. Ford_Prefect Jul 2016 #6
Don't dial it down! Vote for progressives in down-ticket races! AllyCat Jul 2016 #77
What a brilliant piece, Boo! I'm all Cha Jul 2016 #7
Aloha my friend! BooScout Jul 2016 #46
Did you watch tonight? sheshe2 Jul 2016 #65
I watched up until a few minutes before Bill's speech tonight... BooScout Jul 2016 #80
That is the beauty of the internet... sheshe2 Jul 2016 #86
Aloha, Boo! Cha Jul 2016 #69
I remember when Arkansas united behind Obama, at her request, and gave Obama all their delegates. StevieM Jul 2016 #48
Oh, thanks for that reminder, Steveie! Cha Jul 2016 #70
I was the same. Hillary or nobody. I cried, yelled at the unfairness, sulked, then voted for Obama. Laser102 Jul 2016 #9
That song.... BooScout Jul 2016 #28
I hope that everyone who is angry PatSeg Jul 2016 #10
Lots of positives at the DNC! bekkilyn Jul 2016 #11
Welcome to DU bekkilyn! calimary Jul 2016 #63
Awwww thanks! bekkilyn Jul 2016 #88
Couldn't be better stated, Boo! brer cat Jul 2016 #16
K&R treestar Jul 2016 #18
Thank you Boo Loki Jul 2016 #20
Great post. Skinner Jul 2016 #22
Beautifully written! Bravo Boo! MoonRiver Jul 2016 #25
Excellent post!!!! redstatebluegirl Jul 2016 #26
K & R LAS14 Jul 2016 #27
Such a thoughtful and honest post. Thanks, Boo. writes3000 Jul 2016 #29
Good stuff. Orsino Jul 2016 #33
this is a great post. barbtries Jul 2016 #36
K&R! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #37
I was for Hillary Clinton in 2008 and was disappointed when Obama The Second Stone Jul 2016 #38
great post!! one_voice Jul 2016 #39
I wish I could rec this 1,000 times NastyRiffraff Jul 2016 #40
I dunno how ya did it.... BooScout Jul 2016 #42
I dunno how I did it either! NastyRiffraff Jul 2016 #44
Me too! BooScout Jul 2016 #45
Well said and well done Sheepshank Jul 2016 #43
My confession zenabby Jul 2016 #47
I also took awhile to warm up to Obama. The compromise I reached about voting for him StevieM Jul 2016 #49
Thank you, BooScout! n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #50
Thank you for your post. sarae Jul 2016 #52
Very proud to give you the 100th rec, Boo! calimary Jul 2016 #61
I been mentally preparing myself for supporting The democratic nominee since the NY primary LostOne4Ever Jul 2016 #62
Sarah Silverman sums the entire primary up for me... pokerfan Jul 2016 #66
Did the DNC secretly back Obama while publically denying it? That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #71
Holy crap you're awesome, BooScout! liberalnarb Jul 2016 #72
I'd like to add that we should remember that Hillary wasn't forgotten by Obama.... Moonwalk Jul 2016 #74
Nose holders are parts of coalitions. David__77 Jul 2016 #83
What a great OP! Spazito Jul 2016 #87
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