If You FEEL IN YOUR GUT that Something STRANGE Occurred on Election Day....You may BE CORRECT! [View all]

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While we discuss among ourselves via 2016 Postmortem Analysis as to why we lost,

I'm one of those asking, did we really lose?
Was it a Coup? Is that even remotely possible?

We remember how D. Tramp accused the election system of being rigged, right?
And we remember how the Media made a big deal out of those statements of his,
and acted shocked and offended that D. Tramp would stoop so low as to say that.
They went on how he was questioning the very institution that makes us a democracy.

You must also remember how the corporate media pressed the Democrats to denounce Tramp on his "Rigged" statement,
and so they did...All the way down to Hillary Clinton and the President.

Now this was not the first time that "rigged election" had been brought up, as both D. Tramp and Sanders stated this during the primaries. However, it was the first time that the Corporate Media actually paid attention to the statement, as though it was the first time that they had heard it. This story of rigged election and the denouncement of D. Tramp lasted 3 days, an eternity in news world. What D. Tramp said at that same time that he brought rigged elections? Statements of jailing his opponent if he won, and how if an Iranian soldier looked at our Soldiers sideways, D. Tramp wouldn't hesitate to blow them out of the water, or something like that. Those statements didn't get much attention from the news media, but yet the rigged election statement got three days. Why?
Was it a set-up?
OR just something innocent that we don't need to talk about....
because at the time that the media was pressing that our Dem leaders make statements of assurances,
I was always skeptical, because I knew that we do have problems and have had problems with our election voting system.
It was all kind of surreal....but Hillary was ahead in the polls, and everyone and their mothers were saying that we were gonna win this thing, possibly in a landslide.

So I'm just gonna put all of these links and info I have gathered to date.
Note: All of these articles were written in the latter part of 2016


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According to the exit polls conducted by Edison Research, Clinton won four key battleground states (NC, PA, WI, and FL) in the 2016 Presidential Election that she went on to lose in the computerized vote counts. With these states Clinton wins the Electoral College with a count of 302 versus 205 for Trump. Clinton also won the national exit poll by 3.2% and holds a narrow lead in the national vote count still in progress.
Exit polls were conducted in 28 states. In 23 states the discrepancies between the exit polls and the vote count favored Trump. In 13 of these states the discrepancies favoring Trump exceeded the margin of error of the state. See Table and its footnotes below.
READ MORE http://tdmsresearch.com/2016/11/10/2016-presidential-election-table/

Math Increasingly Suggests Election Fraud Against Hillary Clinton - WATCH VIDEO

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ALSO THIS FROM ALTERNET.....POSTED HERE AT DU ALREADY
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512611153


Russian hackers targeted Arizona election system
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-is-investigating-foreign-hacks-of-state-election-systems/2016/08/29/6e758ff4-6e00-11e6-8365-b19e428a975e_story.html


Feds believe Russians hacked Florida election-systems vendor
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/12/politics/florida-election-hack/index.html



Cybersecurity expert: One battleground state most vulnerable to voting hacks- Pennsylvania
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-nsa-expert-if-i-were-an-election-day-hacker-id-hit-pennsylvania/



How to Hack an Election in 7 Minutes
With Russia already meddling in 2016, a ragtag group of obsessive tech experts is warning that stealing the ultimate prize—victory on Nov. 8—would be child’s play.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-elections-russia-hack-how-to-hack-an-election-in-seven-minutes-214144



Voting machines are still too easy to hack
Worried about a 'rigged' election? You should be, but the risk lies in outdated technology and untrained bureaucrats, not voter fraud
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3114784/security/voting-machines-are-still-too-easy-to-hack.html



A hackable election: 5 things you need to know about e-voting machines
E-voting machines without paper trails are still used in several U.S. states, leading to fears that a 'determined adversary' could hack this year's election
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3099012/a-hackable-election-5-things-you-need-to-know-about-e-voting-machines.html

While Boris and Natasha attempt to meddle in American electoral politics, districts in key states dust off vulnerable touchscreen voting machines. The electronic voting machines' hackability—unrelated to online registration databases—begs extra vigilance against "bad actors" attempting to swing the vote.
Paranoia strikes deep wherever touchscreen devices, known as direct-recording electronic voting machines, or DREs, are still in use. It took a Princeton professor mere minutes to hack a machine, one which some Pennsylvania districts still use. If a "bad actor" wanted to swing the election, she would simply coordinate attacks on outdated digital voting machines in split districts across decisive swing states.
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...three high-stakes swing states still use any unguarded DREs: Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Florida. Although Florida has replaced most of its touch screens with paper ballots, DREs without paper trails remain in use ...
A majority of Pennsylvania counties offer only touchscreen machines without audit trails, and cyber security firm Carbon Black recently declared Pennsylvania the most vulnerable.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/dont-hack-the-vote/article/2004709

Many U.S. voting systems still have vulnerabilities, and many states use statistically unsound election auditing practices, said Joe Kiniry, a long-time election security researcher.
"With enough money and resources, I don't think [hacking the election] is actually a technical challenge," said Kiniry, now CEO and chief scientist at Free and Fair, an election technology developer. "It’s a social, a political, and an infrastructural challenge because you'd have a medium-sized conspiracy to achieve such a goal. Technically, it’s not rocket science."
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3127803/security/3-nightmare-election-hack-scenarios.html

Hacker demonstrates how voting machines can be compromised
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rigged-presidential-elections-hackers-demonstrate-voting-threat-old-machines/

Which voting machines can be hacked through the Internet?
SEPTEMBER 20, 2016 BY ANDREW APPEL
Over 9000 jurisdictions (counties and states) in the U.S. run elections with a variety of voting machines: optical scanners for paper ballots, and direct-recording “touchscreen” machines. Which ones of them can be hacked to make them cheat, to transfer votes from one candidate to another?
The answer: all of them.
https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2016/09/20/which-voting-machines-can-be-hacked-through-the-internet/

Reposted from poster here at DU:
Curious thing about those North Carolina Numbers
North Carolina was a very closely watched state, not only for POTUS, but also for the Senate and Governor race.

Here are the vote totals

Trump 2,339,985
Clinton 2,162,962

Others 186,205

Total 4,689,152

Clinton lost by 177,023 (less than the number of total votes for others)

Senate

Burr 2,371,679
Ross 2,103,510

Other 165,180

Total 4,640,369

There are 48,783 FEWER votes cast in the Senate Race which was hard fought and close.

Governor

Cooper 2,282,052
McCrory 2,277,070

Other 101,068

Total 4,660,190

There are 28,962 FEWER votes cast in the Governor race than for POTUS which was really contentious and nasty.
McCrory is disputing the loss (Cooper is only leading by 4,982 votes) and we may be tied up in legal battles for some time. There has yet to be a request for an official recount.

OK, here's the kicker. The really weird one, in my opinion.

We had a challenge to a NC Supreme Court judge position. The incumbent, Edmunds, ran lots and lots of commercials telling everyone what a swell guy he was. Tough on porn and rapists. Tough on hardened criminals. Undoubtedly he was funded by out of state money. He was one of the guys on the NC Supremes who supported gerrymandering. The race was known to be a serious challenge to Republican control of the NC Supreme Court (and the Legislature is now talking about packing the court.)

Here are these votes

NC Supreme Court Judge

Morgan 2,134,821
Edmunds 1,786,011

Total 3,920,832

There are 768,320 FEWER votes cast in this one judge race than for POTUS. Is it really possible that so few Republicans didn't vote down ticket when this guy was running ads like crazy?

Morgan, the unidentified Dem (they didn't allow Dem/Repub identification on the ballot) who had no money for ads (I think I saw one the day before the election) wins by 348,810 votes over the guy who was running ads constantly! WTF?

And, in fact, Morgan gets only 28,141 fewer votes than Hillary, while the Republican--who was running ads all over TV for a month-- gets 553,974 votes less than Trump!

WTF?

You expect to see fewer total votes down ballot (straight ticket voting was eliminated by the Republicans) just because it takes time. I wouldn't expect to see such a disparity in the Republican totals, though, when there is much less disparity among the Dems. It really makes me wonder if votes were shifted from Dems to Repubs in the top three races for POTUS, Senate, and Governor--and they made their margin of error too close in the Governor's race!

When the early returns were coming in, Hillary was ahead of Trump by about 150,000 votes from the early voting period here in NC. That's a tough lead to lose based on lots of small counties voting Republican--which they usually do--but the lines were long on election day here, too.


**Edited to add:
By November, Russian hackers could target voting machines
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/07/27/by-november-russian-hackers-could-target-voting-machines/?utm_term=.c08a596f5251


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