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B2G

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11. People vote with their wallets. Period.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:25 PM
Nov 2016

Until we learn this lesson, we will continue to lose.

thank you. KewlKat Nov 2016 #1
Likewise, thank you. Show them this chart, 11 states with 2.3 million Trump votes: Coyotl Nov 2016 #50
No...we lost. TCJ70 Nov 2016 #2
Yeah, and some of our votes only count three-fifths as much..ho hum lostnfound Nov 2016 #18
I'm one of those 3/5 voters. OnionPatch Nov 2016 #44
I live in NC Red Mountain Nov 2016 #84
I don't think Trump could have changed our beliefs here in California OnionPatch Nov 2016 #107
"Rights of the majority?" The thing that allowed a large part of the country to enslave the rest? MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #98
Human and civil rights OnionPatch Nov 2016 #106
And don't forget LittleGirl Nov 2016 #47
I AGREE. rladdi Nov 2016 #49
I Agree, rladdi Nov 2016 #51
Confused: Fox News is a shit "news" station, but we're mad more stations don't act the same way?? MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #97
Re your last paragraph FBaggins Nov 2016 #22
Whatever it takes to approach the one man - one vote theory of democracy is what should be done world wide wally Nov 2016 #54
Yea, I Agree liberalmike27 Nov 2016 #30
NO MFM008 Nov 2016 #42
Whether the EC is updated or not thucythucy Nov 2016 #32
You cannot gerrymander the federal election for president because no party can alter state lines. AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #3
You really believe that? Moostache Nov 2016 #4
Yes, I really believe that. AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #6
The overlap is the corrupt RW congress has been opening bogus "investigations" on Dems non stop .... bettyellen Nov 2016 #41
That is certainly an issue, but it is not called Gerrymandering(TM) AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #46
Am saying he gerrymandering helped lead to this - in a direct and large way. bettyellen Nov 2016 #57
I disagree. AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #70
Gerrymandering certainly has been in a factor in geographic and partisan polarization YoungDemCA Nov 2016 #91
But Senate seats are also state-wide elections. AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #148
I agree gerrymandering helped the Repukes HelenWheels Nov 2016 #108
"All politics is local" Tip O'Neil nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #14
Ummm...yes it does because all politics is local. LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #7
You know that's not gerrymandering, right? AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #33
Stop thinking of an Elephant. fleabiscuit Nov 2016 #94
That's not gerrymandering. Nt dionysus Jan 2017 #157
but it is suppression. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #159
Yes, it's dirty trickery, something the pukes love. It may be annoying but i am a dionysus Jan 2017 #160
You can continue to play semantics. They are playing war. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #161
Sorry, Democrats lost and have been losing. earthside Nov 2016 #5
Aaaah, the new catch phrase du jour: "identity politics" LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #9
People vote with their wallets. Period. B2G Nov 2016 #11
ok, the economy is way better than it was, and the poorest, economically destitute LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #12
Chicago? LA? NYC? Detroit? Outside of celebrities these areas are incredibly poor. MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #99
In their minds they are. KPN Nov 2016 #114
It's the economy, stupid. earthside Nov 2016 #17
Excellent post B2G Nov 2016 #23
Wrong azureblue Nov 2016 #34
Granted this is a washington-stater's perspective but AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #72
*Sigh* Lokilooney Nov 2016 #89
You nailed down the problem with the "enthusiasm level". Exilednight Nov 2016 #111
We had idiots on here guaranteeing a bloodbath Democratic victory, probably resulting... MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #101
Plus a Gazillion! KPN Nov 2016 #117
So your proposed fix for 4 brutal elections in a row is...nothing? Cause "we was robbed?" MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #100
Then please explain why Republicans keep,winning in Kansas, Mississippi, and so forth world wide wally Nov 2016 #59
Great post earthside. Thank you for speaking up and speaking the truth. KPN Nov 2016 #116
otherwise known for us as "civil rights" robbedvoter Nov 2016 #104
Correct LittleBlue Nov 2016 #134
This is the point 1 quaker bill Nov 2016 #137
This! treestar Nov 2016 #8
Pundits are putting ona SHOW...when RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA is reported as "news" LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #10
the media, the media, the media Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #13
They reported RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA as news. Repeatedly. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #15
yes, really treasonous, IMO Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #20
The worst was continuously calling the Comey letter "a bombshell " unitedwethrive Nov 2016 #16
yes-- their reaction to that made it so much bigger than it was Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #21
Even with all the media bullcrap and Comey interference, Trump still couldn't win. anamandujano Nov 2016 #27
yep! Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #52
This! treestar Nov 2016 #127
AND HILLARY WON (AND CONTINUES TO WIN) THE POPULAR VOTE. niyad Nov 2016 #19
So did Al Gore, and that and five bucks gets you what? AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #36
this actual FACT runs counter to the "drumpfy has a mandate" nonsense, and needs to be niyad Nov 2016 #38
Realty runs counter to the 'mandate' claims. AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #45
One of their favorites is to claim Hillary won along the coasts.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #24
Thank you. So many threads I won't even click here because of the titles. anamandujano Nov 2016 #25
It's crazy how the interlopers show themselves. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #76
This exactly. we can do it Nov 2016 #26
Our side could have won the election -- and would have won it if not for Comey, together with voter Akamai Nov 2016 #28
and, of course, misogyny. niyad Nov 2016 #39
Yup! Patriarchal/fundamentalist/etc. misogyny. I could have gone on for a while more, but my far Akamai Nov 2016 #64
The corporate media has aided and allowed the GOP to frame the narrative since the 1980s. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #29
THIS IS TRUE Cosmocat Nov 2016 #35
And civil rights and reproductive freedoms are called "identity politics"-by straight white men.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #55
An excellent addition. Thank you. eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #56
"Economic progressives" can split off because they are not using us for their own ends. bettyellen Nov 2016 #58
And the framing never stops. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #60
I've seen that label a few times and it appears some are wanting to abandon "SJWs" as they call us.. bettyellen Nov 2016 #62
Please explain "SJWs". Thank you. eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #63
Social justice warriors - as a pejorative... a lot of libertarian and RWers mock us w it.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #68
Thank you. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #71
Someone here said that we'd all be wealthier and the. Women could fly to other states for abortion bettyellen Nov 2016 #75
I cannot speak for Sanders, guillaumeb Nov 2016 #82
It's actually been a Bernie thing to avoid "the wedge" issues... bettyellen Nov 2016 #83
This is an unproductive post. KPN Nov 2016 #118
I'm suddenly seeing a spate of posts suggesting we should ignore social bettyellen Nov 2016 #132
Not exactly. With due respect, I would say that you are seeing what ... KPN Nov 2016 #140
I'm seeing exactly what I am saying. But thanks for the 'splaining... bettyellen Nov 2016 #147
Anytime. KPN Nov 2016 #149
To add to your list of narrative framing... Medicare and Social Security became Entitlements. n/t Hugin Nov 2016 #105
And entitlements became "free things for undeserving people". eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #122
By definition, they are entitlements. Entitlements are not bad things. dionysus Jan 2017 #158
spot on. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #136
Kick Hekate Nov 2016 #31
There is Plenty to be Angry About liberalmike27 Nov 2016 #37
Your are correct about everything EXCEPT the point Cosmocat Nov 2016 #40
And how do we actually do that? radical noodle Nov 2016 #77
There are a lot of bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #43
I absolutely said that about Sanders and the voters he represents mythology Nov 2016 #48
yes, I agree- but how do we stop it??? Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #53
Bullshit. '08 or '12 turnout wouldve given HRC the victory. 7962 Nov 2016 #61
Bullshit II Honey. Turnout was already higher than 2012. But don't let the facts betray LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #86
Yes Lokilooney Nov 2016 #90
The "propaganda" belongs to you, not me 7962 Nov 2016 #103
Aaaah so you admit that you're wrong by trying to project on me...Nice try. No dice LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #109
Keep. Making. Excuses. 7962 Nov 2016 #112
**2** Things We Should NOT Do: Martin Eden Nov 2016 #65
At this juncture, doing number 2 yields number one to the KGB/GOP. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #131
Hiding your head in the sand is never a good strategy Martin Eden Nov 2016 #133
The only ones with their heads in the sand are the ones pretending LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #141
Who at DU is pretending the KGB had nothing to do with it? Martin Eden Nov 2016 #142
The same ones trying to run a "what can we do better" when we're LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #144
How long will this "midst" last? Martin Eden Nov 2016 #145
As long as the cover up does. LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #146
Why can't progressive billionaires create a news channel like a Fox did during the Clinton admin? world wide wally Nov 2016 #66
an all-liberal/progressive network would be so welcome steventh Nov 2016 #73
And they could afford to pay all those people too! world wide wally Nov 2016 #74
Like Air America? philosslayer Nov 2016 #88
Did what I described sound like Air America? world wide wally Nov 2016 #120
Which big names do you propose? philosslayer Nov 2016 #121
Keith Olberman, Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Joy Reid, Bill Mahr, for starters world wide wally Nov 2016 #123
You mean.... MSNBC? philosslayer Nov 2016 #125
Olberman and Mahr aren't on MSNBC and MSNBC always tried to hide being liberal. world wide wally Nov 2016 #128
I'm not being negative philosslayer Nov 2016 #130
I've wondered the same thing myself. Ligyron Nov 2016 #110
If u vote GOP ,,,,, Cryptoad Nov 2016 #67
its called CHEATING. STEALING. pansypoo53219 Nov 2016 #69
...and hacking. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #93
That's how they do. We can't stop them, but we can definitely fight all the rhetoric and ancianita Nov 2016 #78
Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #79
Sorry, we don't buy that shit here, unlike your buddies over at JPR. JTFrog Nov 2016 #81
K&R betsuni Nov 2016 #80
Thank you! ananda Nov 2016 #85
stop letting them? barbtries Nov 2016 #87
1! KPN Nov 2016 #119
Exactly treestar Nov 2016 #126
K & f'ing R! mcar Nov 2016 #92
1000!!!! AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #95
Dont Think of an Elephant! fleabiscuit Nov 2016 #96
James Comey committed an act of treason and should be tried for it. Initech Nov 2016 #102
The next time anyone says the words "liberal media" mountain grammy Nov 2016 #113
As long as it gets a reaction or changes your train of thought, they will nolabels Nov 2016 #129
"liberal media" is just another conservative con job. Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #135
T.o.o m.a.n.y p.e.r.i.o.d.s.. W.h.a.t. d.o.e.s. i.t. a.c.c.o.m.p.l.i.s.h.? Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #115
It makes it sound authoritative treestar Nov 2016 #124
I thought it was effective.. you're using too many though ;) JHan Dec 2016 #151
I agree with you. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #153
Agree! UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #138
Hell yeah! They talk about everything else but the strange way voting machines work UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #139
K&R! DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #143
brought back bc we need a reminder. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #150
They are still trying to divide. Shameless kick for posterity. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #152
Even here on DU triron Jan 2017 #156
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #154
kick. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #155
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