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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
35. I'm skeptical of this
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:27 AM
Nov 2016

I think a lot of people who haven't voted before came out and voted for Trump because they identified with his racism. People I know who live in rural (and more racist) areas of Michigan talked about how huge the lines were and how far they had to walk to get to their polling places. They say that while in line, people were talking about how they'd never voted for President before, but how much they loved Trump.

And I think that a lot of people who voted for Obama didn't come out to vote because they were not excited to vote for Hillary.

The overall numbers shifted, but I don't think it's generally the same people. I know one person who voted for Obama and voted for Trump, so I know it happened at least a bit, but I am skeptical about this claim that it was a lot of people.

I don't think there's an issue about losing voters. I do think there's an issue of a new voting block of people who haven't voted in the past but who will vote Republican every single time, if they continue to vote. I also think we have to choose candidates who excite Democrats more so we get more people on our side out to vote. But nobody the Democrats could have chosen would have gotten the votes of rural Michigan Trump voters. I know these people. They aren't voting for any Democratic candidate for anything. In rural parts of Michigan, local elections are decided in the Republican primary, because there aren't any Democrats to run. That's part of why people in rural parts of Michigan aren't that interested in the general election. There are no local elections decided at general elections.

A hell of a lot more Obama voters... sfwriter Nov 2016 #1
NO! Their actions elected trump period. The damage that will be done in the next four years will still_one Nov 2016 #4
"Growth will return in the Spring"... n/t lapfog_1 Nov 2016 #27
Isn't that ironic GummyBearz Nov 2016 #32
Good question. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #5
Start by not calling the people whos votes you need "stupid" (nt) jack_krass Nov 2016 #15
What else do you call them? NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #16
Enigmatic. Voting is about a compromise between choice jack_krass Dec 2016 #42
No, I dont think our candidate was the problem. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #43
I'm trying to think of another more appropriate term DFW Nov 2016 #26
That is the point Cosmocat Nov 2016 #28
I'm skeptical of this gollygee Nov 2016 #35
Exactly. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #2
Or didn't vote at all. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #19
Exactly. n/t NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #20
K&R etherealtruth Nov 2016 #3
Yes. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #6
Spent the best part of the last three weeks Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #7
The economy is doing very well oberliner Nov 2016 #8
Kind of miss leading stats. Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #13
Hillary spent a lot of time and money in Ohio and Pennsylvania oberliner Nov 2016 #23
We did not offer any Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #25
Workforce skills and job training oberliner Nov 2016 #30
I teach economics TDBroke Nov 2016 #14
This Calculating Nov 2016 #22
We can blame everybody TDBroke Nov 2016 #29
Unemployment is very low right now. Kingofalldems Nov 2016 #38
You didn't read TDBroke Nov 2016 #40
Sure did. Try again. Kingofalldems Nov 2016 #41
On what planet? Kilgore Nov 2016 #33
No, it wasn't Cosmocat Nov 2016 #36
Clinton lost and was responsible for losing. David__77 Nov 2016 #9
No. The self-identifed progressives WHO REFUSED to vote for Hillary, voted for trump by their still_one Nov 2016 #11
And, still, Clinton was responsible for losing. David__77 Nov 2016 #12
Ag, yes, Hillary is solely responsible. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #17
Sanders lost too. David__77 Nov 2016 #18
Well, there is a large contingent of people ... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #21
Voters are responsible for Trump. End of story. andym Nov 2016 #10
YEP! Cosmocat Nov 2016 #34
K&R betsuni Nov 2016 #24
K&R mcar Nov 2016 #31
You can tell who they are, too. yallerdawg Nov 2016 #37
People wanted a BIG CHANGE. astral Nov 2016 #39
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