2016 Postmortem

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts) Tue Dec 6, 2016, 03:11 PM Dec 2016

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Obama nailed it. No need to sugar coat it. [View all]

"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

It isn't about economics. Their frustrations manifest themselves in more divisive manners.

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Obama nailed it. No need to sugar coat it. [View all] NCTraveler Dec 2016 OP

And Trump won on their backs metroins Dec 2016 #1

Interesting that the person quoted won as well. That isn't a Clinton quote. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #2

I know metroins Dec 2016 #5

I'm probably in the minority Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #15

I feel like we've tried the young vote for 20 years metroins Dec 2016 #20

I agree to a point Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #31

Tried how? quakerboy Dec 2016 #44

Yes metroins Dec 2016 #46

I gotta be honest quakerboy Dec 2016 #49

If I recall, he took a lot of flak for that statement, but it was true then and is true now. shraby Dec 2016 #3

Yep. Clinton took a lot of flak for her deplorable statement. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #4

He took flack for conveniently edited and shortened versions pangaia Dec 2016 #26

Read "Hillbilly Elegy" SharonAnn Dec 2016 #47

Now we can add on... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #6

you forgot the first paragraph of his quote (equally salient) geek tragedy Dec 2016 #7

Yes. Thanks, geek tragedy. elleng Dec 2016 #10

His point is spot on. The addition really doesn't add much to the manifistation of bitterness. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #11

the point was that the people have a lot to be pissed about, and when people geek tragedy Dec 2016 #16

Correct Lithos Dec 2016 #28

People crave simple explanations to complex phenomena. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #30

But Lithos, if you deplore tens of millions of voters, you have fewer to appeal to... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #32

yes, the hispanics are racist or have some other issues where i don't justify it either . JI7 Dec 2016 #42

I haven't heard any anyone say all white blue collar workers are racists.. JHan Dec 2016 #51

Trump did not get 30 percent of the Latino vote. That figure was debunked. StevieM Dec 2016 #55

Like their faithful voting for Republican and once and a while voting blue and expecting everything uponit7771 Dec 2016 #53

...And also the Right... SkyDaddy7 Dec 2016 #24

Yep. Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #50

Yes, POTUS was right, but it is ALSO about economics. elleng Dec 2016 #8

That is why Clinton spent so much time focusing on the economy. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #12

Exactly. She talked about it constantly. The post-election media narrative is pure fiction. StevieM Dec 2016 #54

Thisyes lunasun Dec 2016 #56

The problem is that half the people will always be in the bottom 50 percent. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #17

No, it isn't. That is totally bogus. duffyduff Dec 2016 #18

Indeed, all we need are some coastal states and the Beltway. It'll work everytime!! Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #33

In the last week of this Campaign Run. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #9

much of Trump's nastiest treatment, was directed toward the other republicans NRQ891 Dec 2016 #13

Good points. Trump's supporters had "their hippy on," "doin' it in the road." Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #34

Yet incumbents were re-elected at an even higher rate than normal. In both the House and Senate. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #39

fear and insecurity feeds those frustrations. You can't pretend economics have no role. JCanete Dec 2016 #14

They think somebody else is benefiting at their (entitled) expense. duffyduff Dec 2016 #19

you know all about every member of this group, what they think, and why they do what they do NRQ891 Dec 2016 #21

That just isn't true that you can't change mindsets. What about how people have stopped JCanete Dec 2016 #29

Yes he did. He was right then and is still right now. I never understood the hoopla about that liberalla Dec 2016 #22

He basically pointed out that water is wet. Shocking. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #40

That is why they were so angry. coco22 Dec 2016 #23

I think Democrats should LEAD with GUN CONTROL! Yeah, baby! That'll work. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #35

Still true eight years later. George II Dec 2016 #25

It's also the *cheating*. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #27

Every one needs something safe to cling to - guns and God can be like that - can fix a lot of ills; jmg257 Dec 2016 #36

Eerily prophetic RonniePudding Dec 2016 #37

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #38

drumpfuck has their backs.. rofl Cha Dec 2016 #41

Yes. So ... how do we counteract that? nt CaptainTruth Dec 2016 #43

It certainly is not about economics ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #45

Obama took such a drubbing for saying this - and it's 100% true SpankMe Dec 2016 #48

The 1st Noble Truth of Suffering vlyons Dec 2016 #52