2016 Postmortem

ehrnst

(32,640 posts) Sat Dec 10, 2016, 01:59 PM Dec 2016

Ex-CIA operative: We may need a new vote [View all]

Former CIA Operative Robert Baer says if the CIA can prove that Russia interfered with the 2016 election then the US should vote again.

CNN video: http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/12/10/robert-baer-new-election-russia-hacking-nr.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump-and-russia/

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Ex-CIA operative: We may need a new vote [View all] ehrnst Dec 2016 OP

I listened to him say that as well. triron Dec 2016 #1

Doesn't matter what European democracies would do. Kotya Dec 2016 #6

Or the EC can do their ethical duty and refuse to approve him. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #9

Yes, they can. Kotya Dec 2016 #11

That is because the EC is made up of a bunch of stupid partisans. duffyduff Dec 2016 #13

Actually, that is exactly what I am counting on, the meteor that is still_one Dec 2016 #80

Why are you so determined he becomes president? libtodeath Dec 2016 #17

Don't confuse my understanding of how the Constitution works Kotya Dec 2016 #19

Have we ever been in this situation before with the constitution silent on what to do? libtodeath Dec 2016 #21

The Constitution is not silent on what to do. Kotya Dec 2016 #23

Glad you are happy to surrender libtodeath Dec 2016 #24

And now we see why treestar Dec 2016 #71

Surrendering the constitution by somehow having a do over is not an option. longship Dec 2016 #79

And yet it wasn't just DNC emails now was it? leftofcool Dec 2016 #26

What else was hacked, and how? Exilednight Dec 2016 #55

I just re-read the WP article and as far as I can tell, Kotya Dec 2016 #62

NYT says RNC hacked but nothing released yet Justice Dec 2016 #83

How did I lnow MFM008 Dec 2016 #27

Bernie Busters, Republicans, and Russia Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #54

Exactly. That is coming through in the comments Justice Dec 2016 #82

No, we have not been in this situation before... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #35

The original setup was people voted for people to vote for people.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #31

Actually there was nothing in the original set up about people voting for the EC onenote Dec 2016 #72

You also originally had to be a wealthy land owner.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #84

and not a slave. and male. onenote Dec 2016 #85

Yes there are. The president can impose martial law. Maraya1969 Dec 2016 #40

I think that needs to happen triron Dec 2016 #42

agreed; a foreign power is attempting to hijack our very democracy/government. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #69

The SCOTUS has described a very limited set of circumstances where that could happen onenote Dec 2016 #73

Let's do it. democratisphere Dec 2016 #2

Indulge me, please. Kotya Dec 2016 #7

High level meetings bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #30

Forget it. duffyduff Dec 2016 #10

Yes, to the person who won the most electoral votes. Kotya Dec 2016 #14

Nope. The person who got the popular vote should be in because those T states are under suspicion. duffyduff Dec 2016 #16

We do need a new vote, without trasonous interference from the Russian-Republican cabal Achilleaze Dec 2016 #3

BINGO !!! Its not a matter of HOW MUCH they interfered that's a false bar. Its a matter of IF uponit7771 Dec 2016 #4

This had the appearance of an election but as it turns out the fix was in. A fix is not an election. AnotherMother4Peace Dec 2016 #5

Perhaps we should redo the Democratic primary as well NobodyHere Dec 2016 #50

Ouch! Kotya Dec 2016 #56

Did this stupid ass response really cause you pain? nt AnotherMother4Peace Dec 2016 #63

We don't need a new vote. duffyduff Dec 2016 #8

States like California and New York could hold referendums on recognizing Trump's authority KittyWampus Dec 2016 #12

Yep. I don't think secession is beyond the realm of possibility. duffyduff Dec 2016 #15

There should be a petition to the scotus to put a moritorium on the EC vote. libtodeath Dec 2016 #18

Which would be rejected 8-0. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #33

You thik that really? libtodeath Dec 2016 #37

Absolutely. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #38

I hope you are wrong because if not hell on earth is on us. libtodeath Dec 2016 #39

Don't they teach the 'civil war' thing in schools anymore? n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #51

Yes, they do. We won, the Industrialists bought up the South and over time KittyWampus Dec 2016 #86

Well it would be nice if the rest of the US didn't have to fight California and New York... PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #87

good idea; he is illegitimate. end of story. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #70

I'm not sure that there is any kind of legal or constitutional mechanism for holding another totodeinhere Dec 2016 #20

If new elections are called Qutzupalotl Dec 2016 #22

I'd be okay with that... Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #52

At the very LEAST, this will send Orange Rectum over the edge. . . . BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #25

Just elect Hillary Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #28

Yes, we should start the process that the constitution has for hughee99 Dec 2016 #29

Well Biden has hinted he might run in the "do-over". n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #34

"As soon as possible" means Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020. Kotya Dec 2016 #57

Exactly. People are rightly concerned about trump, hughee99 Dec 2016 #59

Have a new election triron Dec 2016 #60

And? I don't think judicial rulings in foreign countries hughee99 Dec 2016 #61

Won't happen AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #32

If they oppose the infrastructure spending bill they could just not pass it. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #36

not that simple AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #47

If they don't have enough votes to stop the spending bill they aren't going to have enough votes... PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #48

The only way the House could elect Ryan as President onenote Dec 2016 #74

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #41

The "revolution" needs to be peaceful and realistic. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #43

Other nations have done it. triron Dec 2016 #44

most recently Austria triron Dec 2016 #49

Other nations do lots of stuff. We follow our Constitution. onenote Dec 2016 #75

What if we can prove that the FBI interfered with the election? (eom) StevieM Dec 2016 #45

Between now and a week from Monday? onenote Dec 2016 #76

Okay let us make a deal, CIA release all dirty secrets and come clean. Rex Dec 2016 #46

Martial law? HoneyBadgerDontCare Dec 2016 #53

See post #73 onenote Dec 2016 #77

knr triron Dec 2016 #58

knr triron Dec 2016 #64

knr triron Dec 2016 #65

This election was won because of Doreen Dec 2016 #66

yep. Connect the dots. triron Dec 2016 #68

Good. ooky Dec 2016 #67

trump has more to fear zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #78

There will be no new vote dagnuguy Dec 2016 #81