I'd love it if the JPR returnees...

[zipplewrath]

320. Proof

Do you have any evidence of any of your assertions? Because there are a lot of people looking for it and can't find it. But I see you have found every reason you can think of EXCEPT that maybe the candidate was flawed.

We lost because of the same reasons we've been losing several election cycles. Candidates that were ignoring significant portions of the electorate. And it doesn't help when we start calling people "deplorables". I knew who she meant, but a lot of voters thought she was talking about them (even though she wasn't). Michigan was begging her to come visit and she blew them off. But, no, it was the Russians, not her.

And Gerrymandering can't swing presidential elections. It can't swing Senate ones either. It does influence state level offices.

And where is all the "pragmatism" that the Clinton supporters are supposed to be so interested? All the things you discuss are basically "political realities". We're going to have to learn to work within that reality, not just complain about it. Talk about your "pink unicorns". GOTV efforts are there specifically to address suppression/obstruction issues. Weren't we supposed to have some huge advantage with our GOTV structure? Think maybe the outcome indicates a problem a bit larger than this?

Look, I'm the first one to tell folks that she won the popular vote. I've taken to referring to Trump as the "minority president". (Although I'm starting to like "The ambassador from Russia".). And since she only "lost" by about 85,000 well distributed votes, just about anything you want to point to will be "big" enough to be blamed. But we lost ALOT of elections, and not just the election cycle. It might be time to realize that there is something wrong and start putting up candidates that address those problems. Candidates with insanely high negatives probably isn't the place to start.