2016 Postmortem

whathehell

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78. I don't accept Trump, "legitimate" or not. n/t

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Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:54 PM

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It should be no shock to anyone if the Electoral College elects someone other than Trump [View all] mtnsnake Dec 2016 OP

I will be shocked. As will the rest of the country. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #1

They're going to elect Trump. Skinner Dec 2016 #2

I would be surprised, but it SHOULD be no shock if they didn't elect him mtnsnake Dec 2016 #9

I would bet most of them don't even know a history of the electoral college pangaia Dec 2016 #101

Must we always be pessimistic.. whathehell Dec 2016 #27

It's not pessimism SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #29

Wrong whathehell Dec 2016 #35

Would not be the first shocking thing about this election. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #64

That's the sort of shock MFM008 Dec 2016 #65

The only legitimate alternative is Hillary Clinton. duffyduff Dec 2016 #99

Yesterday it was reported that there are 20 likely to vote against flamingdem Dec 2016 #3

Some may have already decided Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #10

Keeping mum would be the smarter thing to do. whathehell Dec 2016 #40

Ha! Wouldn't that be ironic? The "shy electoral voter" trumping the "shy Trump voter"! nt jonno99 Dec 2016 #41

Yeah, I saw that thread here yesterday, and that gives some reason for hope. nt mtnsnake Dec 2016 #12

Just heard it is now up to 39 CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #19

Thirty Nine!! whathehell Dec 2016 #42

oh yay flamingdem Dec 2016 #45

do you have a link? 39 would be awesome. yodermon Dec 2016 #47

No link to the 39 figure CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #50

ok thx yodermon Dec 2016 #52

39 republican electors?? triron Dec 2016 #60

Apparently half of them are Republicans CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #63

On "The View" CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #49

Any Rs among those 39? If not, it means nothing. stopbush Dec 2016 #53

Of course there are few or none. duffyduff Dec 2016 #94

Please: source triron Dec 2016 #59

You're confusing those who are demanding to see the intelligence on Russian hacking with Dream Girl Dec 2016 #88

Yep. The EC is going to vote Trump. duffyduff Dec 2016 #95

Yeah.... but bpositive Dec 2016 #4

It would be shocking ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #5

It's either Trump or Clinton Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #7

It depends on who the faithless electors SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #11

But those are the only people who will become president Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #16

Once it gets to the House SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #17

The public always has a say Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #21

Violent revolution? SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #24

That's the history of our country Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #37

The "public" cast more votes for Trump than they did for all Repub house candidates combined onenote Dec 2016 #30

OK there is no such thing ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #39

bureaucratic defeatism Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #44

OK then. ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #48

People think the election is out of our hands just because it's in the proceedings of the Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #51

Constitutionally it is out of our hands now n/t SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #70

Thank you. whathehell Dec 2016 #43

Unfortunately, I highly doubt they'd vote for anyone but a Republican. nt mtnsnake Dec 2016 #14

Even another Republican would be a huge improvement whathehell Dec 2016 #33

He/She would be illegitimate. I personally would NOT accept that individual as a president. duffyduff Dec 2016 #76

I don't accept Trump, "legitimate" or not. n/t whathehell Dec 2016 #78

Don't care if you do. Most of the Trump voters don't accept Clinton. duffyduff Dec 2016 #92

No? Well, guess what? I could have said the same to you whathehell Dec 2016 #96

Honestly, I don't see it being either one ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #34

Hillary Clinton is the popular vote winner. Your claim she is disliked and not trusted is nonsense. duffyduff Dec 2016 #77

Best case scenario (which ISN'T going to happen) Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #100

it'll be as big a shock as Trump being PEOTUS in the first place Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #6

Most electors are low-level party apparatchiks. Girard442 Dec 2016 #8

The thing is, there are more than a few Repubs who do not like Trump either mtnsnake Dec 2016 #20

Electors -- earn your pay! immoderate Dec 2016 #13

Exactly. mtnsnake Dec 2016 #15

As far as I can determine, they aren't paid anything for their electoral college work. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #22

Technicality. They know what it means. immoderate Dec 2016 #28

What do they get paid? nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #25

The thanks of the American people. immoderate Dec 2016 #31

Then they are about to earn their pay. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #38

Collecting is not earning. immoderate Dec 2016 #46

Correct. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #57

Yes. That was a charge to not be a rubber stamp. It was, however, hyperbolic, immoderate Dec 2016 #69

Update: Actually ELECTORS ARE PAID! immoderate Dec 2016 #72

I would be shocked. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #18

Surely it WOULD shock a lot of people, but it SHOULD not shock anyone mtnsnake Dec 2016 #32

If often shocks me when something that should happen actually does. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #66

It would shock me DFW Dec 2016 #23

Actually it will be an enormous shock if it happens onenote Dec 2016 #26

Yes, historically speaking it appears to be against all odds of happening, but mtnsnake Dec 2016 #56

While I'm not a fan of amateur internet psychoanalysis onenote Dec 2016 #71

Ridiculous. Kotya Dec 2016 #36

I hope but I'm not optimistic. jalan48 Dec 2016 #54

This is nonsense jzodda Dec 2016 #55

Let them. The military would be happy to engage flamingdem Dec 2016 #68

that is a terrible reason to not do it JustinL Dec 2016 #80

Why on earth would you ever let those assholes push you around? mtnsnake Dec 2016 #81

Unfortunately for me one of them is my boss jzodda Dec 2016 #90

since it's never happened in our history NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #58

When in our history has the EC had to consider voting for someone as unfit & unqualified as Trump? mtnsnake Dec 2016 #62

The founding fathers also set up the EC to ensure overrepresentation of slave states onenote Dec 2016 #89

In this case they are the last firewall to avert a coup. nt Snotcicles Dec 2016 #61

I'll believe it when I see it. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #67

Ha Ha Coyotl Dec 2016 #73

It would be EXTREMELY shocking to see 538 people try to decide the will of the entire country. jmg257 Dec 2016 #74

It won't work. The person would be illegitimate. duffyduff Dec 2016 #75

How would an electoral college vote be illegitimate? mtnsnake Dec 2016 #79

It IS illegitimate to invalidate the votes of 130 MILLION people. duffyduff Dec 2016 #93

Try telling that to the Founding Fathers. nt mtnsnake Dec 2016 #97

If a third candidate were to be elected SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #82

If the Electoral College fails to produce a majority winner, then the House would choose mtnsnake Dec 2016 #83

Agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #84

No shock at all, but... RealityChik Dec 2016 #85

May I suggest HRC? triron Dec 2016 #86

I'm skeptical, but I hope so! Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #87

Not acceptable. EVER. duffyduff Dec 2016 #91

Unfortunately for you, me, & everyone else here, those "fuckers" don't need our approval mtnsnake Dec 2016 #98