2016 Postmortem

stevenleser

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11. Who said stop loving or calling them stupid? I just said they are responsible.

Reply to JCanete (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:13 PM

Dec 2016

People make mistakes or do bad things for various reasons.

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Kos does the 2016 Post-Mortem exactly wrong. [View all] appal_jack Dec 2016 OP

wow, fucking a. That really is horrible optics, and makes my stomach a little ill. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #1

He got it right in my opinion. They voted for tRump-this is what they get for their vote.. asuhornets Dec 2016 #2

I agree. They voted for Comrade casino so now their getting what was promised. Va Lefty Dec 2016 #4

Its an inhumane thing to say about people who are going to suffer, which JCanete Dec 2016 #9

Who cares what the right-wing media says? They have no shame. asuhornets Dec 2016 #10

I care about what we say! JCanete Dec 2016 #12

The people that you want Democrats to appeal to would not vote for a Democrat asuhornets Dec 2016 #14

I'm not talking about appealing to them as voters...I'm talking about appealing to them as humans JCanete Dec 2016 #15

Your words: If they understood how they were being used by republicans with race bating and gay bash asuhornets Dec 2016 #18

you think they understand that republicans are just manipulating them into voting on bigotry JCanete Dec 2016 #24

We are talking about Adults, not children..Why do they need to be coddled? nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #39

Well and succinctly put! nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #62

I'm sure that the nonvoting percentage in WV is around 50% (or more). appal_jack Dec 2016 #26

Well I'm going to suffer too. kacekwl Dec 2016 #27

yes you are, and any kind of eye for an eye mentality will make the world go blind...ooh JCanete Dec 2016 #30

An eye for an eye is kacekwl Dec 2016 #34

They didn't all vote for Trump... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #17

Oh they have my compassion. and I hope Trump keeps Obamacare for their sake and many others.. asuhornets Dec 2016 #19

Well they don't have Moulitsa's, and you said he got it right, thus the confusion. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #21

He did get it right...they made the decision as adults..I won't hold their hand..nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #40

Why not? Because if you are ignorant by the time you are an adult, its your fault entirely so JCanete Dec 2016 #50

The people who vote against their interest have a right to do so. That's on them.. asuhornets Dec 2016 #51

What they do affects us and vice versa. It seems like we have a stake in helping people to look at JCanete Dec 2016 #63

Well stated... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #66

I agree with some of what you are saying. But i think the first step.. asuhornets Dec 2016 #67

Why do you assume they kacekwl Dec 2016 #36

It's Republicans who are trying to take their healthcare away... asuhornets Dec 2016 #55

Yeah, it defies logic. ananda Dec 2016 #31

A lot of people were taken in by Trump's false propaganda. But I am not totodeinhere Dec 2016 #53

Neither am I...nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #54

Fuck 'em. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #3

That's not going to us earn very many votes. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #45

Ultimately a voter is responsible for their vote. BTW it isnt a boolean concept. stevenleser Dec 2016 #5

Ultimately people make mistakes. All the time. Actually, I thought we were the party that said JCanete Dec 2016 #7

Who said stop loving or calling them stupid? I just said they are responsible. stevenleser Dec 2016 #11

but you are essentially putting things outside of their current understanding on their shoulders, JCanete Dec 2016 #13

No, everything was within their ability to understand had they tried. It's not like your example stevenleser Dec 2016 #16

Why would they try? People of authority who they have always trusted are giving them the answers. JCanete Dec 2016 #20

Getting rid of people's health coverage wasn't exactly in the fine print. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #41

but ACA is a mixed bag and hard to understand. It is being sold as people's premiums going through JCanete Dec 2016 #49

That's what they thought treestar Dec 2016 #57

the right wingers are always going on about treestar Dec 2016 #56

Holy shit. You literally want to take a Republican position just because it hurts people that are JCanete Dec 2016 #64

Thank you, Steven. It is the responsibility of the people to understand what and who madinmaryland Dec 2016 #59

Adam Johnson is a dick... and there was nothing wrong with that DKos article Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #6

As some Bernie supporters are learning, no one likes.. aidbo Dec 2016 #8

Because the explanation by some Sanders supporters isn't true. duffyduff Dec 2016 #23

Must be nice to be so sure. aidbo Dec 2016 #29

Right. liquid diamond Dec 2016 #65

Kos is right. Fair is wrong. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #22

Fight hate with hate! Now we're cooking with gas! JCanete Dec 2016 #25

Sorry. People who take away health insurance deserve every bit of hate they get. kcr Dec 2016 #37

MLK said that right? You certainly quote from the best. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #48

You are wrong, and FAIR is fair. nt appal_jack Dec 2016 #32

We can show compassion for these coal miners Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #28

Next time around, I want a candidate who can... appal_jack Dec 2016 #33

I have kind of mixed feelings on this. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #35

Republicans are the ENEMY. resistance2016 Dec 2016 #38

I completely agree with Kos. These people need a natural consequence. Tatiana Dec 2016 #42

they thought it would only be taken away from "those people" JI7 Dec 2016 #43

I kind of see what Kos is saying. Things have to get worse before they get better. that's why I'm coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #44

Do those coal miners care that I'm losing my ACA health coverage? Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #46

When they go low, we go high HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #47

Not every coal miner in WV voted Republican ... HeartachesNhangovers Dec 2016 #52

seriously ? treestar Dec 2016 #58

Absolutely. I've been laid-off before from a HeartachesNhangovers Dec 2016 #61

I just can't feel any joy in people losing health insurance mvd Dec 2016 #60

No one lost any health insurance. former9thward Dec 2016 #68