2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Just for the sake of discussion what if Bernie was nominated? [View all]JHan
(10,173 posts)So you're denying the baggage?
We're going to play in fantasy land?
He *DID* vote on the Crime Bill - I gave room for him to apologize for the effects of his vote, and I similarly gave room to Hillary to evolve on this issue because "Super predators" was inexcusable.Yet he persisted to castigate her with a bill she didn't sign herself, even though she sought to make amends for its effects by making criminal justice reform a central feature of her policy proposals this year.
He *DID* have a long convoluted explanation for the rape essay, he *DID* mischaracterize Clinton's position on bills HE HIMSELF VOTED FOR. So no one is innocent here.
None of the sordid aspects of Sander's past was a feature of the Clinton campaign's attacks against him , they weren't featured in any ad, they certainly weren't things SHE HERSELF HIT HIM ON, and they weren't persistent attacks against him.
But I can point to several ugly instances where Bernie outright attacked the party he wanted to nominate him and framed the Democratic party as part of some terrible establishment that stopped caring about people. That worked out well for Democrats in an incumbent year didn't it?
And you persist in missing my larger point:
It isn't that Sanders is a bad person. I don't believe him to be a bad person. As I said elsewhere in another reply:
Every politician has baggage of some sort.
the Op contends that Clinton had baggage therefore she was a weak candidate which is nonsense.
Sanders also had enough baggage for Republicans to exploit.
We simply needed to defend our candidates this year instead of tearing them and each other down.