2016 Postmortem

DesertFlower

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24. i like the show. read up on them -- they really

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 09:35 PM

Dec 2016

struggled when the housing market went south. i'm happy for their success. they also had a hard time conceiving their 2nd child. they had to harvest his sperm before his cancer treatment. she had several IVF's.

http://qpolitical.com/tarek-christina-el-moussa-reveal-heartbreaking-journey-behind-great-success/

seeing the prices people have to pay in southern california makes me grateful that i live in phoenix. can't imagine paying over $700,000 for a house with laminate floors.

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Hillary Clinton is immensely popular -- as long as she isn't seeking a seat at the Boy's Table [View all] sheshe2 Dec 2016 OP

Except... vi5 Dec 2016 #1

Sorry, I cannot agree. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #2

Oh, got it... vi5 Dec 2016 #3

No. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #4

Hmmmm....convincing, well thought out retort. vi5 Dec 2016 #5

Do you have an issue with me? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #7

the OP is a highly respected poster here, but do keep trying, dear heart, we need all the laughs niyad Dec 2016 #30

hugs sheshe2 Dec 2016 #41

always!! niyad Dec 2016 #43

Women! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #44

agreed. I just tell them, though, that I regret the necessity of saving their ignorant asses niyad Dec 2016 #45

Righteous! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #47

I doubt if the women who voted for Trump care if you like or respect them or not. n/t totodeinhere Dec 2016 #48

possibly not, but it never hurts to point out the consequences of actions. niyad Dec 2016 #49

Your point? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #50

I realize now that my comment came off as snarky. But that was not my intention. totodeinhere Dec 2016 #64

Thanks, toto. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #67

The only one equating the obvious misogyny displayed against Clinton with "the left" is you. baldguy Dec 2016 #62

not to get off the post, but i watch HGTV. there's DesertFlower Dec 2016 #8

Ha! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #10

I've seen that show & I doubt if the comments had anything to do with her being a woman mtnsnake Dec 2016 #18

i like the show. read up on them -- they really DesertFlower Dec 2016 #24

and yet, even on this board, the denial of misogyny is almost deafening. niyad Dec 2016 #31

Didn't some people on DU who now support her call her every name in the book when she.... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #38

they think we all have short memories. niyad Dec 2016 #39

I wasn't here then. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #68

Her biggest flaw was being part of a political dynasty in the post G.W. Bush era. Gore1FL Dec 2016 #71

Unfortunately drmeow Dec 2016 #54

Even if you make that comparison... vi5 Dec 2016 #61

K&R mcar Dec 2016 #6

Hey mcar. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #9

we do, indeed, she. we do indeed. niyad Dec 2016 #32

Ha! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #34

Here... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #57

praised AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #11

Misogyny played a large part in this election. BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #12

Can anyone imagine a female Bernie Sanders stepping into a presidential race and insisting that she EffieBlack Dec 2016 #17

Holy shit. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #21

Female Bernie Sanders? progressoid Dec 2016 #27

Nice try - but by taking away all of Bernie's attributes, you changed the premise of my questions EffieBlack Dec 2016 #33

Don't forget that fantasy paper he wrote. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #42

You will never... tonedevil Dec 2016 #53

Correct. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #56

Well if you're going to cherry pick attributes, progressoid Dec 2016 #59

Just imagine! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #63

Hi Blue. So good to see you as well. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #20

So sorry to hear that! BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #65

Thank you blue... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #69

the denials of misogyny were, and continue to be, practically ear-splitting. niyad Dec 2016 #26

That is absolutely true! BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #66

hi, blue, and how are you tonight? niyad Dec 2016 #78

Well, I wasn't online BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #96

thank you. doing okay--wishing we didn't have to go back to the streets, but. . . niyad Dec 2016 #98

Same here, but ... BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #99

It really hasn't changed, has it bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #13

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2016 #14

You know how it's different? yallerdawg Dec 2016 #15

Some are, yallerdawg. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #22

many are, indeed defending the pig (although, personally, I think that is insulting our porcine ones niyad Dec 2016 #35

It's the Princess Leia Syndrome. johnp3907 Dec 2016 #16

you nearly owed me a keyboard. niyad Dec 2016 #36

Sorry. johnp3907 Dec 2016 #37

no need for apologies--I thought it was priceless. just glad I wasn't drinking anything. niyad Dec 2016 #40

Spot fucking on. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #19

Yup. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #23

k and r for this excellent piece. niyad Dec 2016 #25

remember this guardian article: Why do successful women like Hillary Clinton get under so many peop niyad Dec 2016 #28

very good read! treestar Dec 2016 #73

We had "our own" repeating "flawed candidate"over bettyellen Dec 2016 #29

What is with those people in glass houses? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #46

and this: niyad Dec 2016 #51

Ha great thread.... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #52

Republicans and the conservative media started the Benghazi and private email attacks... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #55

K&R!!! Great post. Sheshe! lunamagica Dec 2016 #58

Thanks luna! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #70

Is sexism still a huge issue that hinders female candidates for all elected offices? Absolutely. Kentonio Dec 2016 #60

nobody said sexism is the only reason. but it certainly IS a reason, and one that many people niyad Dec 2016 #82

I absolutely agree. Kentonio Dec 2016 #86

but it was pretty damned evident and accurate in many cases. niyad Dec 2016 #88

The same applies to male politicians. More popular when not running. Eric J in MN Dec 2016 #72

I don't think gender had a thing to do with it. Vinca Dec 2016 #74

BS--and a typical response of those who refuse to acknowledge sexism and misogyny. we niyad Dec 2016 #80

I'm laughing, having been a groundbreaking first woman patrol officer on a police department. Vinca Dec 2016 #87

She. Lost. LS_Editor Dec 2016 #75

SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE BY NEARLY THREE MILLION. get a clue. niyad Dec 2016 #79

She. Lost. LS_Editor Dec 2016 #83

that is reality. look it up. niyad Dec 2016 #84

And yet she lost. LS_Editor Dec 2016 #85

the reality of her popular vote win is a reality. deal with it. "move on"--hmm, where do we niyad Dec 2016 #91

Go ahead. Tell me. LS_Editor Dec 2016 #92

Like n/t Got it Dec 2016 #97

Tiresome Got it Dec 2016 #76

Then trash the tread that is to tiresome for you. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #77

you do realize that reading any OP, or any response on this board, is a strictly voluntary activity, niyad Dec 2016 #81

Majority Got it Dec 2016 #89

the MAJORITY voted, to the tune of nearly THREE MILLION, FOR her. what part of that do niyad Dec 2016 #90

Voters Got it Dec 2016 #93

blah, blah, blah --gee, where are we hearing this drivel from usually? niyad Dec 2016 #94

sweet Got it Dec 2016 #95

the MAJORITY of the country did NOT vote for der drumpfenfuhrer. niyad Dec 2016 #100

"When chatter first started about Hillary Clinton seeking our partys nomination back in 2014" MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #101