2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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30. Bernie was equal to Hillary in his civil rights commitment.

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 10:23 PM

Dec 2016

And it's time to stop smearing him on that. There was never any difference between the Sanders and Clinton campaigns in terms of the anti-oppression agenda.

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What's so terrible about saying "the system is rigged"? [View all] Ken Burch Dec 2016 OP

One thing I've been amazed by... vi5 Dec 2016 #1

Excellent points! Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #4

Oh bullshit. OilemFirchen Dec 2016 #6

So it wasn't voter suppression or ID laws? vi5 Dec 2016 #8

There were a ton of factors. OilemFirchen Dec 2016 #13

In most states, just about anything will suffice for an ID, even a utility bill. Hoyt Dec 2016 #27

I don't disagree.... vi5 Dec 2016 #50

Hello, neighbor! Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #26

The work I saw with the Clinton campaign was about registering to vote NOT GOTV csziggy Dec 2016 #56

Trump used this bogus claim to great effect Gothmog Dec 2016 #2

The problem is that it wasn't "bogus" - the system IS rigged. forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #5

There are two problems-first Sanders had no chance of being the nominee and the DNC did not fix race Gothmog Dec 2016 #7

You misunderstand - Sanders's entire point was that both parties were doing the "rigging". forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #34

The system was rigged against Bernie. Joe941 Dec 2016 #9

How? Sanders lost due to the fact that Jewish, African American and Latino voters rejected him Gothmog Dec 2016 #14

Super delegates cost him the primaries - totally changed how the primary progressed! Joe941 Dec 2016 #52

Super delegates had nothing to do with Sanders lost Gothmog Dec 2016 #54

You assume starting out with a 700 delegate lead has no bearing on the rest of the race. It changes Joe941 Dec 2016 #57

Sanders got less than 43% of the popular vote in the primaries Gothmog Dec 2016 #58

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Trump was always going to say exactly what he said. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #15

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This is how I see it... Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #3

Strange how the "system is rigged" choir has fallen silent. ucrdem Dec 2016 #10

Are you going to claim that our economic system isn't tilted towards the wealthy, "rigged", if you dionysus Dec 2016 #11

It's a revelation to you that the wealthy have more money than the rest of us? ucrdem Dec 2016 #12

It's not as simple as "the wealthy have more money than the rest of us". Never has been. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #17

Wow, you seem a trifle upset. I suppose if trump said the sky was blue, after dionysus Dec 2016 #18

Dayum I lve you. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #31

Heya sheshe!!! ucrdem Dec 2016 #33

Thank you... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #36

backatcha sheshe ucrdem Dec 2016 #42

It hasn't. Sanders supporters have been just as outspoken about the bogusness of Trump's "victory" Ken Burch Dec 2016 #16

These giys have to blame someone, something, for this loss (other than dionysus Dec 2016 #19

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That's a lot of straw. By that turn, i could say liberals aren't president of the college dionysus Dec 2016 #23

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She lost any right to claim she cared more than Bernie about civil rights Ken Burch Dec 2016 #28

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He was upset because they disrupted the event for no good reason Ken Burch Dec 2016 #37

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At the time, Hillary hadn't said anything explicitly in support of BLM Ken Burch Dec 2016 #40

What happened to our friend? Was the strain of this post more than they could bear? dionysus Dec 2016 #48

You mean he didn't usher them backstage, and wag his finger at them? dionysus Dec 2016 #46

Bernie was equal to Hillary in his civil rights commitment. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #30

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Actually, he made speaking out about racism a standard part of his stump speech Ken Burch Dec 2016 #41

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There's no way you can seriously argue he wasn't to the left of HRC. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #45

Another strawman-there are very valid reasons why Sanders did not do well with AA and other votes Gothmog Dec 2016 #55

Bravo/ Brava! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #32

You are honestly saying with a straight face that MANY BernieBros Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #47

Actually yes. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #60

You and I exist on different planets Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #61

Many of them have been, yes. kcr Dec 2016 #51

Nothing. The Electoral College system is rigged to make the votes pnwmom Dec 2016 #25

Thank you. It's the last vestige of the slave system. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #29

Elizabeth Warren says 'the system is rigged' (2012) think Dec 2016 #44

Because it's mostly a backlash against things like a Black President and Women and others gaining JI7 Dec 2016 #49

It has nothing to do with banks rigging markets, becoming felons, and no one going to jail? think Dec 2016 #53

Apparently you never listened to an entire Clinton speech emulatorloo Dec 2016 #59

The system's having been rigged is why we're all here. It's not open to debate. Orsino Dec 2016 #62