2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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72. I haven't made up strange allegations about anyone.

Reply to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #71)

Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:17 AM

Dec 2016

I asked in one thread(using phraseology I later thought better of, and deleted) if it was possible that Cuomo might have tried to undermine Zephyr Teachout's chances of winning in a Congressional race...this was based on the fact that she had challenged him the Democratic nomination for governor(something she had every right to do and something she did in a purely issues-based and high-minded way) and that it is far from unheard of for a politician in New York to try and get payback on a former opponent(in New York Democratic politics, it's pretty much the way of things...why do you think there's a five-member bloc of Democratic state senators there who are supporting Republican control of that chamber even though there's a numeric Democratic majority there now?

I apologize for the wording, but it was a reasonable thing to wonder about, given the relationship between those two.

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Another thing I don't get is progressives who love Tulsi Gabbard but rail against blue dogs [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 OP

Recommended. Excellent question. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #1

"The Israeli State" ?? oberliner Dec 2016 #23

I refer to it as the Israeli State to distinguish the government guillaumeb Dec 2016 #27

Do you do that with any other countries? oberliner Dec 2016 #30

But sometimes, when criticizing the "State" of Israel, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #40

OK oberliner Dec 2016 #60

I try not to expect consistent beliefs of anyone at either extreme of the political spectrum. LonePirate Dec 2016 #2

but certainly in the middle, really? Really? nt JCanete Dec 2016 #21

I've never understood it myself.. JHan Dec 2016 #3

also she is a giant fan of Modi, the PM of India La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #4

Genocide? oberliner Dec 2016 #25

he allowed a 1000 people from a particular community to be killed La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #49

No, most liberals don't call it a genocide oberliner Dec 2016 #51

actually most liberals in india do. i know this because i am from india and have a large set of La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #52

OK oberliner Dec 2016 #57

Not to pick nits, i think that classifies as more of a slaughter or massacre than a genocide dionysus Dec 2016 #81

there is still hope gabbard will take a job with the trump admin so we can get a real progressive nt msongs Dec 2016 #5

oh god. that's not a real thing is it? i heard that it maybe true for heidi heitcamp La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #6

There are a lot of so-called "progressives" who are the opposite of liberal. MADem Dec 2016 #7

In the case of Tulsi, it comes down to she endorsed Sanders. Nothing else matters, not her record KittyWampus Dec 2016 #16

I find her hatred of Muslims problematic. MADem Dec 2016 #18

She does not hate Muslims oberliner Dec 2016 #29

That's a major walk back from previous comments--which people noticed. MADem Dec 2016 #32

No, it's not oberliner Dec 2016 #37

You're not going back far enough. Stop quoting the recent stuff, when her profile was raised. MADem Dec 2016 #45

She has never said she hates Muslims at any point in her political career oberliner Dec 2016 #50

The act of kissing Modi's ass is as loud a statement as she needs to make. MADem Dec 2016 #58

Do you think her being Hindu is at all relevant? oberliner Dec 2016 #59

Her father is a Roman Catholic. She learned a lot of her hate at her daddy's knee. MADem Dec 2016 #64

Interesting perspective oberliner Dec 2016 #65

I simply pointed out her father's religion as a counterpoint to your assumption that I felt MADem Dec 2016 #66

That was not the question I asked oberliner Dec 2016 #70

I don't know why she thinks as she does. She is a Muslim - hater, though. Her comments MADem Dec 2016 #84

She is definitely not a Muslim hater oberliner Dec 2016 #92

yeah, the love of Tulsi is unwarranted. if that's the best the dems can do from her district La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #68

What she ain't is LIBERAL. MADem Dec 2016 #76

She is definitely liberal oberliner Dec 2016 #77

No one with a brain thinks that pipeline is a smart idea. Doesn't make them "liberal." MADem Dec 2016 #78

Only about a dozen in Congress signed that letter of protest to President Obama oberliner Dec 2016 #79

She "modified" those public positions because her attitudes weren't selling in her district. MADem Dec 2016 #85

No, she actually evolved to become more liberal over time oberliner Dec 2016 #91

I doubt we'll ever see eye to eye on this matter. MADem Dec 2016 #93

Probably not - but I do appreciate you taking the time to engage in this conversation oberliner Dec 2016 #94

And let's put this vote in context NCDem777 Dec 2016 #95

The Curious Islamophobic Politics of Dem Congressmember Tulsi Gabbard Cha Dec 2016 #31

Preposterous title oberliner Dec 2016 #61

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #44

Exactly! radical noodle Dec 2016 #80

Is there supposed to be a difference, now? In the past, people used the term progressive dionysus Dec 2016 #82

I don't want to boot out Gabbard or Blue Dogs. David__77 Dec 2016 #8

sure. i mean i am ok with people having differing views on syria La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #9

I don't want blue dogs out of the party NCDem777 Dec 2016 #34

well then it's a good thing Tulsi resigned from the DNC La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #54

Do you like what she's SAYING about Syria????? MADem Dec 2016 #33

Well what legal ground do we have to remove him? NCDem777 Dec 2016 #38

We have no "legal ground to remove" Nutty Kim of North Korea, either, but MADem Dec 2016 #43

I don't get it either. JHan Dec 2016 #96

Gabbard is constantly seeking media coverage. At least we know that much. oasis Dec 2016 #10

Kick La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #11

Odds on her being Trump's VA nominee? nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #12

Lol. That's so sad. I thought that was Palins job La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #13

they're kind of the same person, just had different career opportunities geek tragedy Dec 2016 #41

GIRL! I got a hide a week back cause I pointed out Tulsi loves guns and hates Muslims... KittyWampus Dec 2016 #14

This thread got hidden too but I petitioned for it La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #15

First we need to recognized she endorsed Sanders. After that, many other things make sense. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #17

Ding ding ding. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #19

If that doesn't tell you what a farce the Revolution is, nothing will. kcr Dec 2016 #83

Good for you! mcar Dec 2016 #24

For a lot of people it's not so much far left vs. center left, PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #20

I seem to remember a young man named Barack Obama who did pretty well for himself La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #47

She supported Bernie mcar Dec 2016 #22

probably that as the field goes our choices suck? Its better to choose candidates that are at least JCanete Dec 2016 #26

She's a favorite of Bannon's for God's sake. Why would we even entertain trusting . . . brush Dec 2016 #42

I think you didn't read my post, where i clearly said, if thats the best we can do in that district La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #46

Missed it. totally with you on that then. Are there those who are doing that, or just those JCanete Dec 2016 #48

She's playing footsie with Trump now. RandySF Dec 2016 #28

Bannon's darling..... (see excerpt from DB above) nt MADem Dec 2016 #35

Bannon's darling..... (see excerpt from DB above) nt MADem Dec 2016 #36

Because Hillary EffieBlack Dec 2016 #39

Actually, I'm with you on that one. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #53

the chair should only remain ONLY as long as it's mathematically possible for someone to win La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #55

In this case, the chair was never neutral even from the start of the race. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #56

i am saying that had she been a clinton supporter your words would be far harsher toward Tulsi La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #62

I'm not a fan of Tulsi. I'm not obligated to vilify her to prove it. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #63

yes, and I am not saying you have to vilify her. it's your attitude towards Cuomo La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #67

Why are you so protective of Andrew Cuomo? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #69

Because he is a sitting governor who is effective at his job La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #71

I haven't made up strange allegations about anyone. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #72

there was no reason for that allegation, not a shred of proof, not a single thing. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #73

It was a question, not an allegation. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #74

Blaming him for his actions are fair La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #75

Inconsistency is one of the hallmarks of extremism. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #86

K&R Gothmog Dec 2016 #87

Because they don't bother to look at records, they just pick heroes and villains. FSogol Dec 2016 #88

Just like everyone else, Tulsi isn't perfect. I still support her tho NWCorona Dec 2016 #89

That is a reasonable stance La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #90