2016 Postmortem

jalan48

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15. Looks like not everyone agrees with your assessment of the white working class.

Sat Dec 24, 2016, 03:30 PM

Dec 2016

"They’re all the people I grew up with. They’re their kids. And they’re not racist. They’re not sexist. But we didn’t talk to them."
— Joe Biden, vice president

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-biden-interview-20161222-story.html

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Bernie Sanders could not, and will not be able to, get racist White Americans to stop voting against [View all] Yavin4 Dec 2016 OP

when we tell the story of the great democrat FDR, we conveniently leave out La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #1

Black people have a huge amount of power in The US. Ligyron Dec 2016 #2

Nothing they can say to these people will change anything bravenak Dec 2016 #3

That isn't what Sanders, or most of us want at all. MLK understood that people could change. If he JCanete Dec 2016 #6

Sanders is not MLK and the comparison is insensitive at best and appropriation assuredly bravenak Dec 2016 #7

But he marched to see Martin!...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #8

Groan.... bravenak Dec 2016 #10

Well, actually, he rode the chartered bus from Chicago, then marched there from the parking lot ... EffieBlack Dec 2016 #12

LOL bravenak Dec 2016 #18

You say that like it's a bad thing NWCorona Dec 2016 #32

what the fuck. That is not what I did, and it is really lame for you to try to say I did that, JCanete Dec 2016 #14

It's lame to jump straight to MLK when he was never the subject then accuse me of going bravenak Dec 2016 #17

Just so you know, I use MLK because I admire him and personally think of him as a hero. Exactly JCanete Dec 2016 #22

Once MLK became weaponized against us, he lost that usefulness for us. bravenak Dec 2016 #23

Sadly, so did Malcolm X. But your point is taken, and I hate to be trite. I really don't think JCanete Dec 2016 #24

Blavk lives Matter is serving the purpose they set out for bravenak Dec 2016 #25

She didnt read past the first semtence in your post. jack_krass Dec 2016 #54

You just put a shitload of words in that posters mouth., fwiw. dionysus Dec 2016 #28

Why even bring him up in that context? It's a pattern bravenak Dec 2016 #30

I saw leople pointing out that he was indeed involved in supporting civilrights, i did not see anyon dionysus Dec 2016 #31

Racists will still vote GOP, but Bernie would do a lot better than 3rd way identity politics jfern Dec 2016 #4

So you favour tossing us PoC, LGBTQ, and women under the bus? Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #33

Nope, but what needs to go is the idea that Bernie's supporters are all racist and sexist white male jfern Dec 2016 #35

strawmen, as no one made any absolute statements about all Bernie supporters being racists, nor Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #36

3rd way identity politics attacked Bernie supporters as being sexist and racist jfern Dec 2016 #37

there is no such as "3rd way identity politics" as I thoroughly explained above Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #39

President Trump should thank you for your gaslighting of progressives. jfern Dec 2016 #40

gaslighting progressives??? YOU are the one tossing minorities like myself under the bus Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #41

I never did shit to throw minorities under the bus jfern Dec 2016 #43

I have not attacked progressives ever, I have simply said that doing away with identity politics is Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #44

Again, it's a divisive lie to claim Bernie only cares about economic issues jfern Dec 2016 #45

Again with the blatant misrepresentations, projection and ad hominem Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #46

That Vox calculator is a total fraud. jfern Dec 2016 #47

weak sauce, a hyper-technical analysis of the tax plan that would have been deluged by the RW hit Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #48

The Cold War ended 25 years ago, red-baiting isn't going to work the way it would have jfern Dec 2016 #50

He is NOT a democratic socialist, ffs Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #51

Poster is doing a fine job right here of pointing out the ugly of his own base. Shameful indeed lunasun Dec 2016 #53

MANY white working class folks voted for Obama. This is just true. And Bernie is not trying to RBInMaine Dec 2016 #5

Nobody said the word ALL bravenak Dec 2016 #20

What people always seem to gloss over is every single white person and every other boston bean Dec 2016 #38

We sure can bravenak Dec 2016 #42

no shit!! so so so sick of people using blatant misrepresentation , projection and ad hominem Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #49

The lie that Trump won because of economic populism... joshcryer Dec 2016 #9

So the MANY white voters who voted for Obama and switched to Trump are ALL racists? RBInMaine Dec 2016 #11

How many actually did this? Don't guess or speculate. What are the numbers? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #13

It's a manufactured talking point. bravenak Dec 2016 #19

Far more stayed home than switched. joshcryer Dec 2016 #27

yes all Trump voters are racists. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #52

Looks like not everyone agrees with your assessment of the white working class. jalan48 Dec 2016 #15

I expect Joe to say that, but he of all people should know.. JHan Dec 2016 #21

Racism is a real, yet still one of several, reasons why people voted for snifler. dionysus Dec 2016 #29

Yah, Joe's obviously a racist. Or is it sexists, maybe both. And also probably not a "real Democrat" jack_krass Dec 2016 #56

Let's find out :) Tiggeroshii Dec 2016 #16

+1, +++++++++ OBAMA WASN'T RUNNING AGAINST OVERT RACIST EITHER ++++++++++ uponit7771 Dec 2016 #26

HRC won the popular vote, BS would have won the popular vote. Rex Dec 2016 #34

"Racist white Americans" are a statistically insignificant voting block. What Sanders, or successor jack_krass Dec 2016 #55