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Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
39. there is no such as "3rd way identity politics" as I thoroughly explained above
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 03:47 AM
Dec 2016

Secondly, bashing identity politics is dog whistling, IMHO. I take issue with people telling me and my fellow minorities that the Democratic Party needs to go try and cozy up to white Trump voters who willfully voted for a racist, misogynistic fascist.

Also, amongst some, (notice I said some, NOT all) Bernie supporters, there indeed was racism and misogyny.


The Racist Side of Bernie Sanders Supporters

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/the-racist-side-of-bernie-sanders-supporters.html

While high-profile Republicans step forward to denounce one of their own and to argue that minorities should be treated with courtesy and respect, plenty of white progressives seem intent on putting us in our place, so to speak, and keeping us there. Though much of the media coverage of so-called Bernie Bros—overzealous, predominantly white, young, and male Sanders supporters—has focused on their treatment of female journalists online, their lack of respect for racial and ethnic minorities who deign to challenge Sanders has been perhaps more chilling.

The Washington Post noted that at one point #MississippiBerning became a hashtag used by Sanders supporters on social media—a witty and clever turn of phrase unless of course you are a black American who hears the words “Mississippi burning” and immediately thinks of church bombings and lynchings.

Black writers and activists who have had the temerity to challenge Sanders’s record have been targeted by his supporters in ways that go against not just civility but even decency. I should know. I’m one of them. For having the gall to share my perspective, buoyed by polling data, that self-described socialists are pretty much unelectable to the American presidency, his supporters attempted to harass me offline. (Emphasis on “attempted.”)



The Bernie Bros are out in full force harassing female reporters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/07/the-bernie-bros-are-out-in-full-force-harassing-female-reporters/?utm_term=.9bd14bcee478

If there is a trophy for bad behavior, Bernie Sanders's supporters appear hellbent on taking it from Donald Trump's.

The latest ugly episode involves threatening phone calls to New York Times reporter Amy Chozick and at least one harassing, profanity-laced message directed at NPR's Tamara Keith on Tuesday.



BuzzFeed's Ruby Cramer says her email inbox was on the receiving end of similar missives Tuesday.




This comes two weeks after Daily Beast columnist and WNYC radio host Keli Goff chronicled some of the racist mail she receives from Sanders backers. Here at The Fix, our own Janell Ross has written about her experience with racist, sexist messages from so-called "Bernie Bros."

Bernie Sanders’s most vitriolic supporters really test the meaning of the word ‘progressive

They use a variety of curse words and insults typically reserved for women. More than one has suggested that I deserve to become the victim of a sex crime. They critique the "objectivity" of what is clearly political analysis based on polling data and other facts; they insist that black voters are dumb or that I have a personal obligation to help black voters see the error of their Clinton-voting ways. It is vile. And it stands in sharp contrast to the claim that no portion of Sanders supporters are angry people who sometimes engage in or embrace bigotry.

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when we tell the story of the great democrat FDR, we conveniently leave out La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #1
Black people have a huge amount of power in The US. Ligyron Dec 2016 #2
Nothing they can say to these people will change anything bravenak Dec 2016 #3
That isn't what Sanders, or most of us want at all. MLK understood that people could change. If he JCanete Dec 2016 #6
Sanders is not MLK and the comparison is insensitive at best and appropriation assuredly bravenak Dec 2016 #7
But he marched to see Martin!...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #8
Groan.... bravenak Dec 2016 #10
Well, actually, he rode the chartered bus from Chicago, then marched there from the parking lot ... EffieBlack Dec 2016 #12
LOL bravenak Dec 2016 #18
You say that like it's a bad thing NWCorona Dec 2016 #32
what the fuck. That is not what I did, and it is really lame for you to try to say I did that, JCanete Dec 2016 #14
It's lame to jump straight to MLK when he was never the subject then accuse me of going bravenak Dec 2016 #17
Just so you know, I use MLK because I admire him and personally think of him as a hero. Exactly JCanete Dec 2016 #22
Once MLK became weaponized against us, he lost that usefulness for us. bravenak Dec 2016 #23
Sadly, so did Malcolm X. But your point is taken, and I hate to be trite. I really don't think JCanete Dec 2016 #24
Blavk lives Matter is serving the purpose they set out for bravenak Dec 2016 #25
She didnt read past the first semtence in your post. jack_krass Dec 2016 #54
You just put a shitload of words in that posters mouth., fwiw. dionysus Dec 2016 #28
Why even bring him up in that context? It's a pattern bravenak Dec 2016 #30
I saw leople pointing out that he was indeed involved in supporting civilrights, i did not see anyon dionysus Dec 2016 #31
Racists will still vote GOP, but Bernie would do a lot better than 3rd way identity politics jfern Dec 2016 #4
So you favour tossing us PoC, LGBTQ, and women under the bus? Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #33
Nope, but what needs to go is the idea that Bernie's supporters are all racist and sexist white male jfern Dec 2016 #35
strawmen, as no one made any absolute statements about all Bernie supporters being racists, nor Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #36
3rd way identity politics attacked Bernie supporters as being sexist and racist jfern Dec 2016 #37
there is no such as "3rd way identity politics" as I thoroughly explained above Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #39
President Trump should thank you for your gaslighting of progressives. jfern Dec 2016 #40
gaslighting progressives??? YOU are the one tossing minorities like myself under the bus Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #41
I never did shit to throw minorities under the bus jfern Dec 2016 #43
I have not attacked progressives ever, I have simply said that doing away with identity politics is Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #44
Again, it's a divisive lie to claim Bernie only cares about economic issues jfern Dec 2016 #45
Again with the blatant misrepresentations, projection and ad hominem Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #46
That Vox calculator is a total fraud. jfern Dec 2016 #47
weak sauce, a hyper-technical analysis of the tax plan that would have been deluged by the RW hit Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #48
The Cold War ended 25 years ago, red-baiting isn't going to work the way it would have jfern Dec 2016 #50
He is NOT a democratic socialist, ffs Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #51
Poster is doing a fine job right here of pointing out the ugly of his own base. Shameful indeed lunasun Dec 2016 #53
MANY white working class folks voted for Obama. This is just true. And Bernie is not trying to RBInMaine Dec 2016 #5
Nobody said the word ALL bravenak Dec 2016 #20
What people always seem to gloss over is every single white person and every other boston bean Dec 2016 #38
We sure can bravenak Dec 2016 #42
no shit!! so so so sick of people using blatant misrepresentation , projection and ad hominem Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #49
The lie that Trump won because of economic populism... joshcryer Dec 2016 #9
So the MANY white voters who voted for Obama and switched to Trump are ALL racists? RBInMaine Dec 2016 #11
How many actually did this? Don't guess or speculate. What are the numbers? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #13
It's a manufactured talking point. bravenak Dec 2016 #19
Far more stayed home than switched. joshcryer Dec 2016 #27
yes all Trump voters are racists. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #52
Looks like not everyone agrees with your assessment of the white working class. jalan48 Dec 2016 #15
I expect Joe to say that, but he of all people should know.. JHan Dec 2016 #21
Racism is a real, yet still one of several, reasons why people voted for snifler. dionysus Dec 2016 #29
Yah, Joe's obviously a racist. Or is it sexists, maybe both. And also probably not a "real Democrat" jack_krass Dec 2016 #56
Let's find out :) Tiggeroshii Dec 2016 #16
+1, +++++++++ OBAMA WASN'T RUNNING AGAINST OVERT RACIST EITHER ++++++++++ uponit7771 Dec 2016 #26
HRC won the popular vote, BS would have won the popular vote. Rex Dec 2016 #34
"Racist white Americans" are a statistically insignificant voting block. What Sanders, or successor jack_krass Dec 2016 #55
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