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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders could not, and will not be able to, get racist White Americans to stop voting against [View all]Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)39. there is no such as "3rd way identity politics" as I thoroughly explained above
Secondly, bashing identity politics is dog whistling, IMHO. I take issue with people telling me and my fellow minorities that the Democratic Party needs to go try and cozy up to white Trump voters who willfully voted for a racist, misogynistic fascist.
Also, amongst some, (notice I said some, NOT all) Bernie supporters, there indeed was racism and misogyny.
The Racist Side of Bernie Sanders Supporters
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/the-racist-side-of-bernie-sanders-supporters.html
While high-profile Republicans step forward to denounce one of their own and to argue that minorities should be treated with courtesy and respect, plenty of white progressives seem intent on putting us in our place, so to speak, and keeping us there. Though much of the media coverage of so-called Bernie Brosoverzealous, predominantly white, young, and male Sanders supportershas focused on their treatment of female journalists online, their lack of respect for racial and ethnic minorities who deign to challenge Sanders has been perhaps more chilling.
The Washington Post noted that at one point #MississippiBerning became a hashtag used by Sanders supporters on social mediaa witty and clever turn of phrase unless of course you are a black American who hears the words Mississippi burning and immediately thinks of church bombings and lynchings.
Black writers and activists who have had the temerity to challenge Sanderss record have been targeted by his supporters in ways that go against not just civility but even decency. I should know. Im one of them. For having the gall to share my perspective, buoyed by polling data, that self-described socialists are pretty much unelectable to the American presidency, his supporters attempted to harass me offline. (Emphasis on attempted.)
The Washington Post noted that at one point #MississippiBerning became a hashtag used by Sanders supporters on social mediaa witty and clever turn of phrase unless of course you are a black American who hears the words Mississippi burning and immediately thinks of church bombings and lynchings.
Black writers and activists who have had the temerity to challenge Sanderss record have been targeted by his supporters in ways that go against not just civility but even decency. I should know. Im one of them. For having the gall to share my perspective, buoyed by polling data, that self-described socialists are pretty much unelectable to the American presidency, his supporters attempted to harass me offline. (Emphasis on attempted.)
The Bernie Bros are out in full force harassing female reporters
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/07/the-bernie-bros-are-out-in-full-force-harassing-female-reporters/?utm_term=.9bd14bcee478
If there is a trophy for bad behavior, Bernie Sanders's supporters appear hellbent on taking it from Donald Trump's.
The latest ugly episode involves threatening phone calls to New York Times reporter Amy Chozick and at least one harassing, profanity-laced message directed at NPR's Tamara Keith on Tuesday.
BuzzFeed's Ruby Cramer says her email inbox was on the receiving end of similar missives Tuesday.
This comes two weeks after Daily Beast columnist and WNYC radio host Keli Goff chronicled some of the racist mail she receives from Sanders backers. Here at The Fix, our own Janell Ross has written about her experience with racist, sexist messages from so-called "Bernie Bros."
Bernie Sanderss most vitriolic supporters really test the meaning of the word progressive
They use a variety of curse words and insults typically reserved for women. More than one has suggested that I deserve to become the victim of a sex crime. They critique the "objectivity" of what is clearly political analysis based on polling data and other facts; they insist that black voters are dumb or that I have a personal obligation to help black voters see the error of their Clinton-voting ways. It is vile. And it stands in sharp contrast to the claim that no portion of Sanders supporters are angry people who sometimes engage in or embrace bigotry.
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Bernie Sanders could not, and will not be able to, get racist White Americans to stop voting against [View all]
Yavin4
Dec 2016
OP
when we tell the story of the great democrat FDR, we conveniently leave out
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2016
#1
That isn't what Sanders, or most of us want at all. MLK understood that people could change. If he
JCanete
Dec 2016
#6
Sanders is not MLK and the comparison is insensitive at best and appropriation assuredly
bravenak
Dec 2016
#7
Well, actually, he rode the chartered bus from Chicago, then marched there from the parking lot ...
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#12
what the fuck. That is not what I did, and it is really lame for you to try to say I did that,
JCanete
Dec 2016
#14
It's lame to jump straight to MLK when he was never the subject then accuse me of going
bravenak
Dec 2016
#17
Just so you know, I use MLK because I admire him and personally think of him as a hero. Exactly
JCanete
Dec 2016
#22
Sadly, so did Malcolm X. But your point is taken, and I hate to be trite. I really don't think
JCanete
Dec 2016
#24
I saw leople pointing out that he was indeed involved in supporting civilrights, i did not see anyon
dionysus
Dec 2016
#31
Racists will still vote GOP, but Bernie would do a lot better than 3rd way identity politics
jfern
Dec 2016
#4
Nope, but what needs to go is the idea that Bernie's supporters are all racist and sexist white male
jfern
Dec 2016
#35
strawmen, as no one made any absolute statements about all Bernie supporters being racists, nor
Grey Lemercier
Dec 2016
#36
there is no such as "3rd way identity politics" as I thoroughly explained above
Grey Lemercier
Dec 2016
#39
gaslighting progressives??? YOU are the one tossing minorities like myself under the bus
Grey Lemercier
Dec 2016
#41
I have not attacked progressives ever, I have simply said that doing away with identity politics is
Grey Lemercier
Dec 2016
#44
weak sauce, a hyper-technical analysis of the tax plan that would have been deluged by the RW hit
Grey Lemercier
Dec 2016
#48
The Cold War ended 25 years ago, red-baiting isn't going to work the way it would have
jfern
Dec 2016
#50
Poster is doing a fine job right here of pointing out the ugly of his own base. Shameful indeed
lunasun
Dec 2016
#53
MANY white working class folks voted for Obama. This is just true. And Bernie is not trying to
RBInMaine
Dec 2016
#5
What people always seem to gloss over is every single white person and every other
boston bean
Dec 2016
#38
no shit!! so so so sick of people using blatant misrepresentation , projection and ad hominem
Grey Lemercier
Dec 2016
#49
So the MANY white voters who voted for Obama and switched to Trump are ALL racists?
RBInMaine
Dec 2016
#11
Looks like not everyone agrees with your assessment of the white working class.
jalan48
Dec 2016
#15
Racism is a real, yet still one of several, reasons why people voted for snifler.
dionysus
Dec 2016
#29