2016 Postmortem

LenaBaby61

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32. Boy does he look foolish now.

Thu Dec 29, 2016, 04:19 PM

Dec 2016

To believe that Bernie wouldn't have suffered the same problems of voter suppression/voter disenfranchisement as Hillary did is ridiculous. Like the GOP was going to play "nice" with him just because he was Bernie? Plus, cyber-hacking or interference by the ruskies didn't help her either. In fact, I don't think ANY Dem would have won the presidency, knowing/feeling what I know and feel nearing January 2017.

Also, Bernie was NEVER vetted by the press because they were too busy ignoring him in favor of giving tRumputin $2 Billion dollars worth of free air time, so I'm not buying ANY of this "Bernie blows tRumputin away" business. I would have voted for him if he had been the Dem nominee, as I trust him much more than that evil mad man tRumputin. However, the GOP nor the ruskies would have played "nice" with Bernie either.

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Cenk Uygur can kiss my ass [View all] rbrnmw Dec 2016 OP

Plus he needs to change the name of his channel to "All the Middle-Aged Turks" lapucelle Dec 2016 #1

Actually he has young Ana Kasparian as his co-host womanofthehills Dec 2016 #14

Yes, she's fantastic. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #76

Let's not talk about the fact that forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #20

Cenk you've lost your priviledge of complaint now sit back Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #2

Gosh that's a really shallow stab at reality ain't it! lastone Dec 2016 #44

You may have warned us treestar Dec 2016 #54

uh-oh, no fair asking such discomforting questions! such a meanie! Bill USA Dec 2016 #57

Uh-oh...helping Trump win makes way worse than a meanie. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #69

And that was exactly the problem... not Bernie or his supporters. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #78

I do believe Bernie's run and failure to get out when it was clear he could not win, his refusal to Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #92

Yeahh, that "democracy" thing... always gettin in the way of tellin voters who to elect!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #93

+1! tecelote Jan 2017 #104

No it didn't...the attacks on Hillary and the party hurt us badly...we lost. Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #119

You have to admit Bernie's presence in the race moved Hillary farther to the left... that's a given. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #120

If Sanders or O'Malley had been the nominee I guarantee you that we would have learned all about StevieM Dec 2016 #62

Yes, blame it all on Bernie... like Hillary is blameless. GMAB!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #77

she is blameless . it's bad enough the right went after her Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #85

I stopped paying attention to the TYT a while back Gothmog Dec 2016 #3

I was playing a Bill Maher video on youtube rbrnmw Dec 2016 #4

I stopped watching Maher a while back also Gothmog Dec 2016 #11

He advocated for Hillary in the GE Nonhlanhla Dec 2016 #5

If by "advocate" you mean ... dawg Dec 2016 #17

He was not super enthusiastic, to be sure, Nonhlanhla Dec 2016 #21

Well I voted for Bernie in the primaries. dawg Dec 2016 #22

I feel the same way. Third Doctor Dec 2016 #24

Agree with your post. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #34

Vicious, not viscous. You have to keep tabs on your hyperactive autocorrect . nt tblue37 Dec 2016 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #35

The horror of it all!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #79

is he still on the PUtin tv propaganda network? msongs Dec 2016 #6

That would be Thom Hartmann, Larry King, Ed Schultz, Mike Papantonio, etc. progressoid Dec 2016 #8

Nothing wrong with criticizing anyone .... LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #7

I love Jimmy Dore! Awesome guy. PotatoChip Dec 2016 #19

I agree... check077 Dec 2016 #71

Had Hillary HEEDED the criticism, instead of coasting to the end, we'd gratefully be rid of Fuhrer-Elect Cheeto Face and be callin her Madame President. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #80

CENK jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #9

Agreed - Cenk and Ana are doing a great job covering Standing Rock womanofthehills Dec 2016 #15

And Bernie leading the charge... gotta love his tenacity!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #81

Agreed. We need a lot more of them. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #26

I'm in agreement. I think we need more like him JDC Dec 2016 #48

I agree with you! I love TYT jzodda Dec 2016 #55

Yes, one of the lone wolves crying out in the wilderness. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #82

people are unforgiving when you don't stand at attention behind their Candidate. They would rather JCanete Dec 2016 #66

If only they had heeded his warnings. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #83

Cenk, Moore, Maher, etc... can be complete assholes at times, but... killbotfactory Dec 2016 #68

glad there are other supporters Locrian Jan 2017 #89

spot on Locrian jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 #94

This is the same guy who said Sanders won Super Tuesday and would be the nominee. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #10

He said Hillary's support was soft, and Trump could win a couple days before the election killbotfactory Dec 2016 #12

Soft? It looks like he was correct. padfun Dec 2016 #28

Bullshit. n/t Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #49

Agree! brutus smith Dec 2016 #51

The poster you responded to was being sarcastic. And we don't know how Sanders would have done. StevieM Dec 2016 #63

No doubt!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #84

Boy does he look foolish now. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #32

Why would you let him kiss your ass? He can go kiss La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #13

true rbrnmw Dec 2016 #16

I've got no time for TYT. They are part of the problem. dawg Dec 2016 #18

Yup they spent the whole campaign bashing her Thrill Dec 2016 #23

No they didn't. They held her to high standards, which shouldn't have been a problem. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #30

Oh yes they did? Where have you been? Al lyou have to do is search through their Thrill Dec 2016 #37

The polls were wrong. All of them. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #39

Michael Moore understood that once we turned our back on progressive populism, you could see the disaster comin from a mile away. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #86

I absolutely love Ana. She's one of the best journalists out there. jalan48 Dec 2016 #25

Sorry...there are no journalist anymore... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #70

I like Cenk if for no other reason than he stood up to MSNBC when he worked for them. jalan48 Dec 2016 #73

I no longer watch any media including MSNBC... but Cenk did way Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #75

You obviously haven't been watching that closely. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #87

Cenk is an ass and I really do not care what he thinks Gothmog Dec 2016 #27

Did Cenk praise Trump for that Sprint deal he had nothing to do with? Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #29

It endures. Meanwhile, where's Hillary? TonyPDX Dec 2016 #31

I dunno Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #33

If we survive no one is going to laugh, and I'm hardly a millennial progressive. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #36

I wasn't pinning the blame solely on the BoBers Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #42

Hillary probably has the biggest name recognition of any "private citizen" on the planet. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #43

Why would I appear butthurt attacking Bernie Busters, Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #64

Sanders was not the candidate. In our other elections the losing candidate keeps a low profile . . . brush Jan 2017 #102

I'm less worried about what isn't a good look than saving the country. TonyPDX Jan 2017 #107

As a private citizen now without an office like Sanders and Warren she doesn't have much of . . . brush Jan 2017 #108

She doesn't have much of a platform? Only the biggest name recognition in the country. TonyPDX Jan 2017 #109

Re-read the last sentence. She knows it's time for new blood. brush Jan 2017 #110

It endures. Meanwhile, where's Hillary? LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #40

The fight endures. Have you given up? TonyPDX Dec 2016 #41

The fight endures. Have you given up? LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #45

I don't disagree with a single point you made. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #50

I am not a Bernie-basher and I don't think that most people who opposed him in the primaries StevieM Dec 2016 #65

Not at all. Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #46

Hope springs eternal. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #47

The TYT covered the standing rock water protectors when the MSM was either silent... killbotfactory Dec 2016 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author blue cat Dec 2016 #38

Because Cenk Uygur was correct ... earthside Dec 2016 #52

yeah had he only saved it all from that POS I wouldn't mind rbrnmw Dec 2016 #53

It is interesting to see the GOP toadies of M$M pretending Trump was not the M$M's favorite son, and Bill USA Dec 2016 #56

I'm not a huge TYT fan, but I like Cenk from time to time. welivetotreadonkings Dec 2016 #58

Yeah, fuck him bravenak Dec 2016 #60

Dissent is not tolerated in the modern OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #67

Dissent is not the problem.... check077 Dec 2016 #72

Are we talking about Bernie now, or Trump? elehhhhna Jan 2017 #88

I disdain Trump, but.... check077 Jan 2017 #95

Truth is always important. I don't like it when my own party says to me "fall in line." JCanete Jan 2017 #100

Maybe because Sanders wouln't concede long after he had no chance. Weeks and weeks he kept . . . brush Jan 2017 #103

again who's fault is that. do you object to something that ended up being in Clinton's campaign or JCanete Jan 2017 #111

A novel way to look at it. They forced his hand to keep dividing the party brush Jan 2017 #112

I'm sorry, for my money, as a Democrat myself, he was a Dem. Shouldn't those of us in the party JCanete Jan 2017 #113

IMO he may as well have been running as a third party because he attacked the party continuously brush Jan 2017 #114

oh, you're all in the talking points zone I see. His platform certainly didn't neglect people of JCanete Jan 2017 #115

Blah de blah blah blah. If those people didn't listen to and vote according to trumps dog whistles.. brush Jan 2017 #116

I would say its about a two-party system being a fairly undemocratic condition that we find JCanete Jan 2017 #117

Cenk, what happened to you? betsuni Dec 2016 #74

From what friends who watch Cenk tell me .... LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #90

Ugh. cwydro Jan 2017 #91

He was a Trump surrogate. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #96

No he wasn't. Your power to conflate justified criticism, even distrust of our whole system, to JCanete Jan 2017 #99

Denial is strong around here Devil Child Jan 2017 #97

It's an odd time we live in TSIAS Jan 2017 #98

The left now consider Glenn Beck our friend. LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #105

Lost and stranded B C Butler Jan 2017 #101

I never bothered with Chunk Uighur or TYT. I'm a much happier Dem. nt LLStarks Jan 2017 #106

Fuck him. BigDemVoter Jan 2017 #118