2016 Postmortem

JCanete

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52. Of course that is alienating. How the media covers this shit is one thing, and in that context your

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 02:35 PM

Jan 2017

post is valid. How we look to our own is important here and in Democratic circles though, if we aren't going to be our own worst enemies. It is not about being nice to racists and misogynists...it is about understanding that they are human beings like the rest of us, with brains that function according to the same needs, and figuring out how to show them that they are not being treated in good faith by their right-wing representatives. Telling them they are bad when most of them truly think they are good is doing nothing to bridge this gap, and really, too much depends on us doing this to be foolish out of frustration. We need to change minds, not push them back into the hive of Republican propaganda.

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Democrats are not alienating white working class people from the democratic party nor [View all] boston bean Dec 2016 OP

The people who voted for Trump were all racists who are hopeless Gothmog Dec 2016 #1

Rolling out your version of "facts" I see..."are all hopeless." What facts did you use to determine JCanete Dec 2016 #3

Thought many of those deplorables voted for Obama... what does that tell you? InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #53

When Obama ran in 2008 True_Blue Jan 2017 #59

There are certainly some DUers trying to alienate white working class voters NobodyHere Dec 2016 #2

A segment of the white working class has different priorities than the working class as a whole. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #4

I have family in rust belt states jzodda Dec 2016 #5

How is Trump going to bring back "Union jobs" Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #7

Well I think we already know how he will bring jobs back jzodda Dec 2016 #8

Me too Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #9

There was no openly racist people running against Obama, tribalism works uponit7771 Jan 2017 #55

Bull fucking shit. MicaelS Dec 2016 #6

You aren't the base of the party anymore. Deal with it. Also the WWC is a bullshit meme bettyellen Dec 2016 #11

Um, I'm a POC but I still want working class voters to vote Democrat... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #13

I don't know if you are willing to go into their all bettyellen Dec 2016 #14

I understand your fears... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #15

There is just a huge amount of people staying home and sadly I think it's because of the bettyellen Dec 2016 #16

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #20

Aww the revenge of the slighted white man, how telling you defend his ego driven vote. Fuck that. bettyellen Jan 2017 #47

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #48

We lost for a lot of reasons, none being we didn't win over the people who hated Obama and Hillary bettyellen Jan 2017 #49

"wonder why 'you' lose"? revmclaren Jan 2017 #54

Good way to influence people and make friends. No wonder "the message" isn't resonating... dionysus Jan 2017 #64

Are you somehow confused that Dems campaigned against the "WWC"? bettyellen Jan 2017 #67

I'm observing the attitude of posters here, not what was campaigned on. dionysus Jan 2017 #68

If our Party doesn't break it's addiction to corporate money we will not be able to Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #29

The chair isn't installed or "made". lapucelle Jan 2017 #39

I did not say that Hillary was corrupt. Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #46

I think Americans are fine with corruption if they think they get a benefit. That's the lesson. bettyellen Jan 2017 #51

Oh please. Polls showed this was about immigration and terrorism. Not economics. bettyellen Jan 2017 #50

Didn't they alienate themselves by choosing trump? They know he's disgusting in so many ways brush Jan 2017 #36

You mean "fuck off you racist piece of shit, we don't need you!11!" won't dionysus Jan 2017 #66

The Trump voters alienated me, too. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #10

Low information, deplorable dipshits can kiss my ass. nt oasis Dec 2016 #12

Right. Who alienated who? When they started voting for Republicans they abandoned America. baldguy Jan 2017 #17

Great! With our wonderful showing nationwide in the last election we don't need them anyway! jalan48 Jan 2017 #18

The "White Working Class" is racist bullshit. baldguy Jan 2017 #21

Looks like 2018 is going to be even better! jalan48 Jan 2017 #22

Next up: Fighting against the "International Bankers" for that "White Working Class". baldguy Jan 2017 #23

Yep! It's definitely a slippery slope we go down at our own peril. jalan48 Jan 2017 #24

You seem to be rooting for it. baldguy Jan 2017 #25

Rooting? I'm rooting for more Democratic election victories in 2018. How about you? jalan48 Jan 2017 #26

You're rooting for Democratic election victories by joyfully using RW memes that divide Democrats? baldguy Jan 2017 #27

RW memes? Tell me more. jalan48 Jan 2017 #28

Oh, no you're doing fine by yourself. baldguy Jan 2017 #31

You seem angry. Let's focus on 2018. That's what's important. jalan48 Jan 2017 #32

Let's start by stopping the use of RW talking points to attack Democrats, shall we? baldguy Jan 2017 #34

You have mentioned "Right Wing talking points" several times now in reference to my posts. jalan48 Jan 2017 #35

What thread are you in? The phrase "White Working Class" is a racist RW talking point. baldguy Jan 2017 #37

I was talking about Democrats winning elections. I thought we all wanted that. jalan48 Jan 2017 #40

Using RW talking points to attack Democrats doesn't help Democrats win elections. baldguy Jan 2017 #43

I am fuckin angry at RWTP... we should all be no? tia uponit7771 Jan 2017 #56

I agree. It's about the "Working Class". Main Street not wall Street! jalan48 Jan 2017 #58

Really? whathehell Jan 2017 #30

Then you haven't been paying attention. baldguy Jan 2017 #33

I've been paying plenty of attention.. whathehell Jan 2017 #38

The reason it's code is that the working class is not just whites. That classification, when . . . brush Jan 2017 #41

It's more than that. It's a dog whistle to imply persons of color don't work. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #42

YES! That too, very good point brush Jan 2017 #44

Bingo & bingo. baldguy Jan 2017 #45

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #57

So done with them True_Blue Jan 2017 #19

Of course that is alienating. How the media covers this shit is one thing, and in that context your JCanete Jan 2017 #52

I am stunned that so many people overlooked ALL the completely obvious moral flaws in Trump karynnj Jan 2017 #60

You should make this an OP. I appreciate the time and thought that went into your post. Thank you boston bean Jan 2017 #62

Thanks karynnj Jan 2017 #63

Had a friend who told me that any white male who liked guns voted for Trump ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #61

Reading DU, i would say you're very incorrect. You can't call people racist pieces of shit, tell em dionysus Jan 2017 #65