2016 Postmortem

aikoaiko

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31. Hillary's surrogates trotted out most of that already

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:34 PM

Jan 2017

Bernie kept increasing in the polls nevertheless.

It's true that she beat him, and it's true that she lost the GE and now we are stuck with Trump

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Attacks that would have been used effectively on Sanders if he were the Democratic nominee [View all] Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 OP

Will this stuff ever end? n/t rzemanfl Jan 2017 #1

what "stuff"? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #3

The Bernie would/wouldn't have lost stuff. It accomplishes nothing. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2017 #5

It's all that some have left. NWCorona Jan 2017 #10

Do you post the same protests in the "Bernie wudda won!" threads? baldguy Jan 2017 #21

I don't go looking for them. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2017 #22

Of course. baldguy Jan 2017 #23

Whatever that means. I thought my post made it clear I dread seeing both. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2017 #28

well thank the gods we had hillary!!!! bowens43 Jan 2017 #2

that is a different issue, but I think she was a better candidate overall than Bernie Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #4

Thank God, indeed. lapucelle Jan 2017 #6

environmental racist-- meaning his environmental policies might preferentially affect minorities? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #12

Kurt Eichenwald of Newsweek saw the opposition research on Sanders, lapucelle Jan 2017 #15

ah, thanks. Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #62

lol. this. Joe941 Jan 2017 #61

I don't know anybody who is pro-abortion MiniMe Jan 2017 #7

Too bad we never had the chance to find out.... TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #8

I agree it would have been in fascinating to see it play out Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #13

If those are the attacks that Bernie would have faced in the GE NWCorona Jan 2017 #9

Really? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #14

Yes. Really NWCorona Jan 2017 #19

Not really, there was a great deal of material Gothmog Jan 2017 #18

I don't take much stock in pundits who got very little right this election NWCorona Jan 2017 #20

Most apply to Warren HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #11

a lot of those things just don't have the power they used to, and I think Sanders could have JCanete Jan 2017 #16

I don't think we should under-estimate the power of rightwing bullshit after this past election Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #24

Sanders was treated with kid gloves by the Clinton campaign and there was a ton of material Gothmog Jan 2017 #17

that's a good piece, especially notable for when it was written Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #25

Sanders was treated with kid gloves Me. Jan 2017 #54

Think about what your premise is. HassleCat Jan 2017 #26

Favoring no restrictions at all on abortion.... bettyellen Jan 2017 #27

What restrictions are you in favor of? Just an honest question NWCorona Jan 2017 #32

I don't mind the current system that allows exceptions for the life and health for the mother or bettyellen Jan 2017 #36

I don't think it's weird. I believe it should be between a woman and her doctor NWCorona Jan 2017 #38

I think it's weird because it has zero support and would be a lightening rod for those religious bettyellen Jan 2017 #42

I can see it being a lightning rod as well but it's not like they would vote for him anyway NWCorona Jan 2017 #43

Well they would have used anything they could find. Unfortunately it's a big one for those bettyellen Jan 2017 #50

Yes they did. NWCorona Jan 2017 #56

What is it with this forum???? For some reason it's mired in looking behind rather than ahead. Vinca Jan 2017 #29

I'd vote for Bernie again in a heart beat. CentralMass Jan 2017 #30

Hillary's surrogates trotted out most of that already aikoaiko Jan 2017 #31

I keep waiting for info in that devastating op to drop. NWCorona Jan 2017 #33

There was a ton of good oppo on Sanders including tapes of his college course Gothmog Jan 2017 #34

This is nothing new and would only impact those that wouldn't have voted for him anyway. NWCorona Jan 2017 #37

Sanders was never vetted and so none of these materials had been used against Sanders Gothmog Jan 2017 #44

I never said that they wouldn't make effective ads I don't think they would have had NWCorona Jan 2017 #46

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Jan 2017 #48

And you want to school me on feelings. NWCorona Jan 2017 #49

That is because Sanders was running for media coverage and his efforts hurt the Democratic party Gothmog Jan 2017 #60

Match up polls are worthless Gothmog Jan 2017 #35

Maybe, but matchup polls said Hillary would lose to Trump and she did. They said Bernie would win. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #41

Go ask 538-I trust Nate Silver on this issue Gothmog Jan 2017 #45

538 may not have a good model when unconventional candidates are involved. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #47

How'd that work out for us....misplaced trust in my book Uggwearingdad Jan 2017 #57

The fact is, he generally outperformed Hillary in the rust belt, in the primaries. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #39

Yes. elleng Jan 2017 #52

I think we need to quit worrying about what the Republicans will say.. aidbo Jan 2017 #40

What's the point? HassleCat Jan 2017 #51

Except he wasn't the nominee, so why bring this up? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #53

Attack Attack attack..but just remember if Bernie Sanders had been the nominee we would INdemo Jan 2017 #55

Love your speculation lastone Jan 2017 #58

so in your mind, why do you think "DNC / DWS put their boot on Sanders campaign"? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #63

No way to know how attacking Bernie as Socialist vs. his greater authenticity would have played out MrPurple Jan 2017 #59

Bernie had not even been tested/vetted, and was a bit thin-skinned. Lil Missy Jan 2017 #64